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Posted on 11/29/2015 12:12:48 AM PST by TigerClaws

The suspect accused of killing three people in an attack on a Planned Parenthood in Colorado was once a happy father and art dealer who painted and listened to rock music, a report has revealed. Robert Dear, 57, who allegedly burst into the clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday and opened fire, was a recluse who moved to a remote cabin in the state a year ago, his neighbors have told Daily Mail Online. But a new report by the New York Times has revealed that Dear was once a happily married family man who lived with his wife and son in South Carolina. Since his 2000 divorce, Dear seems to have declined into a loner who lives in a remote cabin, seeking bondage and sadomasochistic sex online and smoking marijuana.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3338082/Cabin-dwelling-recluse-attacked-Planned-Parenthood-happily-married-father-art-dealer-turned-pot-smoking-oddball-sought-sadomasochistic-sex-online-divorce.html#ixzz3srlU4UKf Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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To: TigerClaws
Since his 2000 divorce, Dear seems to have declined into a loner...

Well there you have it.... another case where the normal and appropriate sexual release in a marital setting no longer was happening and a nutcase was the result.

81 posted on 11/29/2015 7:36:23 AM PST by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believe�.but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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To: Mom MD

That is a problem with edibles where people eat an overdose. Smoking it is different.


82 posted on 11/29/2015 8:28:19 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940; Mom MD
It's possible to use pot responsibly, and it's possible to use pot irresponsibly - like many things in life.
83 posted on 11/29/2015 8:31:50 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: TigerClaws

Appears to be more of a Left Wing Nut.


84 posted on 11/29/2015 9:36:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: CPT Clay

Yeah...I don’t think conservatives are especially drawn to dealing in art...more of a volvo, wine and cheese thing.


85 posted on 11/29/2015 10:04:46 AM PST by dogcaller
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To: jagusafr

I have a family member who is a Denver police officer. Their arrests for driving while impaired (by pot, which they can now test for) are way up, by something like 50%, iirc, and they have major druggy “behavior” problems downtown with teenagers who aren’t old enough to buy tobacco or alcohol but seem to have no problem getting high strength pot.

Also, some counties are making money on this. I knew an older lady from Florida who went to Colorado to make money working on the county pot harvest (further south of Denver) so of course that county is all about selling “high quality” (strong) pot.

I was in Glenwood Springs recently and locals told me their big aim is to keep their kids out of it and also to prevent pot tourism. But it’s an uphill battle and I think it’s going to destroy a lot of families and even communities.


86 posted on 11/29/2015 10:40:18 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

“Pot harvest” and “pot tourism”......

What kind of life is that? Real question.

A subculture?


87 posted on 11/29/2015 11:26:11 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

No, it’s the situation in Colorado right now. The pro-pot vote was a disastrous decision, but money poured into the state to promote it. A lot came from the tobacco companies, who apparently plan to commercialize it when it’s approved in more states.

I thought there were federal laws that controlled this - you know, the same federal laws the left invokes whenever a state tries to limit abortion - but obviously the Choomer in Chief is like totally dude in favor of staying stoned.

And the Dems, tax hogs that they are, worked day and night to promote it.


88 posted on 11/29/2015 11:48:13 AM PST by livius
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To: dogcaller

yep, must be more of a ‘Log Cabin’ republican.


89 posted on 11/29/2015 12:53:23 PM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; TigerClaws

Exactly

I played the first Rainbow Six and Goldeneye on Nintendo 64. That gave way to SOCOM on PS2. Various games on PS3, and now games on PC. I have not, nor will I ever feel the urge to go around killing people.

Iron Maiden is my favorite band and has been for 12 years. I don’t feel the urge to worship satan and I never will.


90 posted on 11/29/2015 6:23:13 PM PST by wastedyears (uchikudake - toki michite - ikiru tame - tokihanate)
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To: wastedyears

The fact that there are not a couple hundred million serial killers in America alone pretty much proves that there is a limited effect that violent imagery and music have on people.

Unquestionably there is an effect. For example, my spider phobia is greatly reduced after many hours of playing Skyrim. It desensitized me. But a healthy hind can differentiate a movie from reality and a song lyric from reality when clearly Pulp Fiction would not go over well in real life.

Wholly blaming inanimate things serves one purpose. It lets people avoid having to confront the underlying problems. Those being liberalism and it’s dogma/how it impacts civilized society.

It is the iberal who...

Robs
Rapes
Murders
swindles
Embezzles
Starts unneeded wars
Conspires to self enrich

And a thousand other things. Not a movie. We scoff at the idea a movie caused Bhenghazi. Cannot have cake and eat it too.

All the movies and games and songs in the world cannot break down the foundation of a moral and civilized mind. The solution is to eradicate the false doctrines of liberalism that TEACH people to destroy civilized and moral society from Kindergarten on up. Not to blame inanimate things.


91 posted on 11/29/2015 6:37:27 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (`)
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To: ConservingFreedom

The people may always try to petition their governments to get those products legalized but in the meantime persons acting in a lawless fashion in the procurement of substances not absolutely necessary for life or limb makes such persons just as blood guilty as those criminals who butcher innocent people in the production and distribution of said substances! Now I emphasize again, “not necessary for life and limb”


92 posted on 11/30/2015 1:50:23 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: livius
I thought there were federal laws that controlled this - you know, the same federal laws the left invokes whenever a state tries to limit abortion -

National prohibition, as well as the fiat declaration that abortion is a constitutional right, are both usurpations of the Constitution. One was imposed by a rogue Congress, the other by a rogue Supreme Court.

Both are a disgrace and should be condemned, as should all unconstitutional actions at any level of government.

93 posted on 11/30/2015 4:48:58 AM PST by Ken H
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To: mdmathis6
As are the people who make a desired product illegal and thus inflate the profits and restrict them to criminal hands.

persons acting in a lawless fashion in the procurement of substances not absolutely necessary for life or limb makes such persons just as blood guilty as those criminals who butcher innocent people in the production and distribution of said substances!

We're not disagreeing here.

94 posted on 11/30/2015 5:45:39 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: livius
teenagers who aren't old enough to buy tobacco or alcohol but seem to have no problem getting high strength pot.

Teenagers who aren't old enough to buy tobacco or alcohol have never had a problem getting pot.

95 posted on 11/30/2015 5:47:57 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: TigerClaws

If he was all these things before, it really just sounds to me like middle age kicked his ass.


96 posted on 11/30/2015 5:52:41 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: ichabod1
Marijuana and Hashish were used by Muslims for centuries to fire up their members to murder others. In modern times it does the same. Google it. Psychiatric Drugs And Mass Murder: Exploring The Connection If there is an issue with the shooter, it is his mad, staring eyes, indicative of being hypnotized and/or drugged. Its all about gun seizure.
97 posted on 11/30/2015 5:13:18 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: WVKayaker

I said that “you will find Marijuana.. in the blood of many shooters/killers, as was PCP, Meth, TCH, etc>

I took one Metro section of the Wash. Post because of a little article and three other editions at random. Here is what I found in two of them:

Wash.Post, Metro, B2 - Man gets 10-year term in crash that killed son” and “which also left the boy’s older sister severely disabled”.

“Smith’s attorney..said his client suffers from drug addition that began when he started taking pain medication after a car crash in 2011....
Prosecutors had charged Smith with driving under the influence of PCP. But the jury found Smith not guilty of driving under the influence after his attorney argued that the blood sample submitted as evidence was taken from Smith illegally”.
But while awaiting trial in the death of his son, Smith was charged in April with PCP possession and driving under the influence.” DATE/PAPER CHOSEN RANDOMLY

CHOSEN ON PURPOSE: Wash. Post, Nov. 27, 2015, p. B3, Local Digest, “Man loses appeal in death penalty case”

A man who was sentenced to death in the New Year’s Eve 2006 slaying of a Richmond couple and their two daughters lost his appeal before a federal appeals court.

“Ricky Jovan Gray, 38, claimed that his trial attorneys failed to meet constitutionally sufficient standards, first by failing to present evidence that might have cast doubt on his confession and second by not telling the jury during the sentencing phase that he was high on PCP at the time of the murders”. ..

Gray and an accomplice killed Bryan and Kathryn Harvey and their daughters, Stella, 9 and Ruby, 4, in a home invasion”.

Have a miserable life!!! Oh, sorry, you apparently do already.

Two young children killed by a bastard on PCP. Remember that the rest of your life.


98 posted on 12/01/2015 7:43:52 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2sheep
Marijuana and Hashish were used by Muslims for centuries to fire up their members to murder others.

'there is no basis for the belief that Nizari assassins did their business while hopped up on drugs. [...] Legend has it that the Nizaris functioned primarily as assassins. [...] Their leader, known simply as the Old Man of the Mountain, recruited followers by administering an "intoxicating potion" to them and transporting them to a "garden of paradise" to enjoy the forbidden delights of women, drugs and food. The primary ingredient of the potion, according to medieval reports, was hashish. [...] Research by historians such as Bernard Lewis, however, has cast doubt on this lurid picture. [...] The bizarre stories that became so closely connected with the group sprouted from the medieval Muslim majority's attempt to condemn the Nizaris as immoral and heretical'. - http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2023/does-assassin-derive-from-hashish

Psychiatric Drugs And Mass Murder: Exploring The Connection

No mention of marijuana in that article.

99 posted on 12/02/2015 7:48:51 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper; WVKayaker
WVKayaker said nothing about PCP.
100 posted on 12/02/2015 7:51:28 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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