Posted on 03/04/2016 6:16:25 PM PST by mystery-ak
Conventional wisdom, especially amongst Donnie Trump’s fan club, is that a brokered convention would be the ultimate betrayal by the GOP establishment because the GOPe (or whatever your favorite slur du jour is) will use a brokered convention to “steal” from Donnie the nomination that is rightfully his. The anti-Donnie crowd feel similarly: that a brokered convention is now the only way to prevent the epic electoral disaster that will befall the Republican party if Donnie is the GOP nominee.
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There is not going to be a brokered convention. It’s just another version of denial.
I’ve posted here a half-dozen times already that the more the GOPe tries to turn the convention into “Dealing For Delegates” the more the play right into Trump’s greatest strengths.
So go on GOPe...do you feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
I am not a Cruz fan, but if he wins the nomination and the GOPe pulls this crap on him at the convention, I’ll be rioting in Cleveland with those who chose him.
I’ll bring the tar. You bring the feathers.
Everybody remember your pitchfork.
What’s the point of the primaries if the GOPe is going to throw our voice away and pick whoever they want? Why are we going through all of this?
After hearing Romney’s diatribe and the covert Rubio manager’s rant, seems they think Trump is going to just stand there while they deliver a barrage of deadly blows. Idiots. Trump surely has it all planned out before they even know what the problem is.
Marie I will be standing be your side!
I’m hoping that enough of The Ruling Class realize, especially after the hostile reaction to Romney’s despicable speech, that it’s best that they not steal the nomination. The anger could make the Summer of 1968 look like a party scene in comparison. That’s not a threat. It’s a realistic concern.
Yeah, they don’t care. They’re willing to take the hit, lose the White House, the Senate, even the House.
Because they think it’s just a temper tantrum, and eventually you’ll be back, doing what they say. Because they are your betters.
Yell. Scream. Threaten. Riot. They don’t care. They live in a bubble.
But what is different about this go around, and what makes it difficult to accept that the party could pick someone at an open convention is that in this situation, the party is fighting against some of its candidates. The party should be neutral, and the candidates can battle between themselves. But in this primary, we have the party leaders working night and day to "stop" one of the candidates, setting up phony debates where opponents of that candidate get to savagely attack him. We have party leaders working on funding marketing efforts against candidates, and rounding up donors to consider a third party, or bring in a retread to get the nomination. That is a new development. And if, through their efforts, they manage to keep the front runner from getting to a majority, but he is close, and they then try to take the nomination from him, that is going to result in severe repercussions.
Not just a loss this time; I think they wouldn't mind a loss. I think it would be the end of that party. The 5 or 10 percent of the party who are "establishment" can go join the Democrats, which is where they belong anyway.
It isn't new. Nominations were stolen for Lieberman, Murkowski, and Cochran. GWBs first nomination was carefully manipulated. McCain's popularity was always suspect.
It isn't just our side of the aisle. Kucinich (love him or hate him) had his district not just gerrymandered, but shattered into tiny pieces. Eugene McCarthy back in the 1960s was unfairly portrayed as a one-issue candidate.
Back to today. Look at the Democratic Primary rules. They're even worse than the 'pubs. With super-delegates, it's almost impossible to stop the anointed one.
That's a big reason Trump will win and the elite know it. All of those younger Sanders voters? They're very likely to vote for Trump, but stay home if the nomination is stolen.
grrr......
You might want to rethink that position. You see, there is no requirement that the delegates bound to vote for Trump on the first ballot are actually Trump supporters.
The delegates are chosen at state conventions sometime between now and the convention, and you can bet the Rubio and Cruz campaigns will be there to get their supporters on the delegation. Trump has already dismantled his state organizations in the states that have already voted. So it is very possible that the delegations from SC, for example, could have less than half the delegation made up of people who actually support Trump. They have to vote for him on the first ballot, but after that, they can vote for anyone they choose.
So don't you think the GOP and the Rubio and Cruz campaigns will do everything they can to make sure the delegations are composed of people not inclined to play "Let's Make a Deal" with Trump?
If the RNC plays stupid and brokers a convention they can kiss both houses of congress and the prez goodbye. The people will revolt, and vote third-party for prez, Senate, and House.
Exactly.
If Cruz were leading, you’d be watching the GOPe pulling out all the stops on him right now. Kelly would be sharpening her teeth on his neck. Romney and 1/2 of the US Senate would be eating him alive.
And if they do manage to take out Trump, watch how fast it happens.
Has there been a brokered convention in the past century for the President?
Yep - and the last polls on who won the debate are evidence that the harder they push to dump him, the harder the People are going to push to keep him.
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