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Corona Virus Daily Thread #41

Posted on 04/08/2020 9:40:31 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3832668/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: grey_whiskers

Good, gosh....sickening, about the Gates vax, in India.

Thanks.


321 posted on 04/09/2020 7:01:16 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Paul R.

I definitely think it’s diet. When I’ve looked at the demographics, it doesn’t appear to me that the death rates by race weren’t too far off from the democratic makeup of the areas in general.

I seriously believe obesity, diabetes an high blood pressure is the biggest factor. Blacks do have higher numbers of this, but I don’t necessarily think it has to do with poor HC, but poor choices. In rural areas, you will find whites have the same bad diet choices. The worst hit area in GA is a rural area but it has one of the the highest level of diabetes, and chronic health problems in the state, white and black. The standard American diet is loaded with carbs which leads to all kind of health problems, throw in processed food and it’s a timebomb


322 posted on 04/09/2020 7:10:29 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

PS, I think some of this outrage is ginned up to push for universal healthcare and “orange man is a racist”. They are already doing it to the GA governor.


323 posted on 04/09/2020 7:13:16 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

GERMANY
114,733 cases and 2,333 deaths
https://dts-nachrichtenagentur.de/corona-fallzahlen


324 posted on 04/09/2020 7:15:16 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

Case counts US - 432k cases, 15,470 fatalities as of April 9, 2020
As of 6am

Alaska: 7
Alabama: 48
Arizona: 80
Arkansas: 18
California: 485
Colorado: 193
Connecticut: 326
Delaware: 19
District of Columbia: 27
Florida: 323
Georgia: 370
Guam: 4
Hawaii: 5
Idaho: 18
Illinois: 462
Indiana: 203
Iowa: 27
Kansas: 38
Kentucky: 73
Louisiana: 652
Maine: 14
Maryland: 124
Massachusetts: 433
Michigan: 959
Minnesota: 39
Mississippi: 67
Missouri: 85
Montana: 6
Navajo Nation: 20
Nebraska: 14
Nevada: 80
New Hampshire: 18
New Jersey: 1,504
New Mexico: 16
New York: 6,974
North Carolina: 53
North Dakota: 4
Northern Marianas Islands: 2
Ohio: 193
Oklahoma: 79
Oregon: 38
Puerto Rico: 24
Pennsylvania: 310
Rhode Island: 35
South Carolina: 63
South Dakota: 6
Tennessee: 79
Texas: 177
US Virgin Islands: 1
Utah: 13
Vermont: 23
Virginia: 75
Washington: 431
West Virginia: 4
Wisconsin: 99

Total 15,472

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/826435-case-counts-us-432k-cases-15-470-fatalities-as-of-april-9-2020?p=847160#post847160


325 posted on 04/09/2020 7:18:26 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

Potential utility of melatonin in deadly infectious diseases related to the overreaction of innate immune response and destructive inflammation: focus on COVID-19
Today, 04:04 AM

Tan, D.X. and Hardeland, R. 2020. Potential utility of melatonin in deadly infectious diseases related to the overreaction of innate immune response and destructive inflammation: focus on COVID-19. Melatonin Research. 3, 1 (Mar. 2020), 120-143.

DOI:https://doi.org/https://doi.org/10.32794/mr11250052.
Abstract

The high mortality of deadly virus infectious diseases including SARS, MERS, COVID-19, and avian flu is often caused by the uncontrolled innate immune response and destructive inflammation. The majority of viral diseases are self-limiting under the help of the activated adaptive immune system. This activity is cell proliferation dependent and thus, it requires several weeks to develop. Patients are vulnerable and mortality usually occurs during this window period. To control the innate immune response and reduce the inflammation during this period will increase the tolerance of patients and lowers the mortality in the deadly virus infection. Melatonin is a molecule that displays respective properties, since it downregulates the overreaction of the innate immune response and overshooting inflammation, but also promotes the adaptive immune activity. Many studies have reported the beneficial effects of melatonin on deadly virus infections in different animal models and its therapeutic efficacy in septic shock patients. Furthermore, melatonin has a great safety margin without serious adverse effects. We suggest the use of melatonin as an adjunctive or even regular therapy for deadly viral diseases, especially if no efficient direct anti-viral treatment is available.

http://www.melatonin-research.net/index.php/MR/article/view/79


326 posted on 04/09/2020 7:23:28 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

SINGAPORE
Singapore cases begin increasing Forty new cases linked to foreign worker dormitories.
Today, 01:22 AM
One of the worst-hit countries when the virus first spread from China in January, Singapore’s strict surveillance and quarantine regime helped slow the outbreak, but recent rises in locally transmitted cases have raised fresh concerns. Singapore reported 142 new infections on Wednesday.

Forty of the new cases were linked to foreign worker dormitories. Tens of thousands of blue-collar foreign workers live in close quarters in the city state.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/08/singapore-coronavirus-increase-revives-fears-of-post-lockdown-surge


327 posted on 04/09/2020 7:23:56 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: LilFarmer

MEXICO

In Mexico, “Atypical pneumonia” is killing more people than COVID-19 – IMSS denies it.
By Yucatan Times on April 8, 2020

CANCUN Quintana Roo – The newspaper Noticaribe Peninsular presented a report which stated that the Mexican Institute of Social Security (IMSS) located in Cancun’s 510 block registered the death of 19 people in recent days due to “atypical pneumonia.

The IMSS authorities have kept the situation airtight and do not report to the patients’ relatives about the real health condition, which also puts the general population at risk.

Until yesterday, Tuesday, April 7, 2020, some 41 patients were diagnosed with “atypical pneumonia” in the hospital, according to the medical reports in the ‘initial observation’ section. In addition to these, 15 citizens with COVID-19, including a woman who is almost six months pregnant, were also diagnosed.

Nineteen deaths in the last 13 days.

The third floor of the hospital, destined for Internal Medicine, became the area for patients with this ailment. An isolated area where employees do not want to go, even by accident.

Thursday 26 and Friday, March 27, were critical days. The IMSS registered eight deaths from ‘atypical’ pneumonia, according to sources inside the institution. In addition, IMSS workers reported a lack of supplies. From Friday 3 to Sunday, April 5, the figure increased: 10 deaths classified as ‘atypical’ pneumonia.

https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020/04/in-mexico-atypical-pneumonia-is-killing-more-people-than-covid-19-imss-denies-it/


328 posted on 04/09/2020 7:28:28 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They’re going to go to church until Gov. Abbott and the local preachers tell them not to.

Stay home and tune into your church’s live stream.


329 posted on 04/09/2020 7:28:31 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer

ECUADOR
April 8, 2020 11:12 AM National COE registers 4 450 covid-19 infections and 242 confirmed deaths related to covid-19
Drafting Elcomercio.com

The National Emergency Operations Committee (COE) registers a total of 4,450 confirmed infections by covid-19 in Ecuador this Wednesday, April 8, 2020.

María Paula Romo, Minister of the Interior, indicated that 3 741 people are stable and complying with home isolation, 178 are stable hospitalized and 146 hospitalized with reserved prognosis of the total of 4 450 infected people. There are 242 deceased people of this group of people and 140 have been discharged from hospital.

The Government Minister indicated that there are 240 people who died probably with covid-19.

Romo added that citizens are going to see the curve with a figure of the day when the people’s symptoms began. The capacity to test in the country has tripled, of the dammed results, 15 526 samples have been taken, he assured.

A single curve is made with the contagion report, because there is still a lag in the data, he said.

In one more week, the two isolation periods of 14 days each will be completed. In Ecuador next week, the isolation measures will be held for 28 days. Romo assured that the isolation will be extended with rigorous measures in many of the provinces, in all at first, but after evaluating city by city and province by province, to know in which activities the measures can be relaxed, for this It will create a traffic light to know which activities can or cannot be resumed. I mean

In Quito and Pichincha, the isolation is most likely to spread because it has gradually become the second province with the highest number of cases.

The Government has an artificial tool that allows, through the GPS of the phones, to know if the people who tested positive for covid-19 mobilized. It has been documented to send to the Prosecutor’s Office and follow a judicial process for disobeying the order and putting the lives of Ecuadorians at risk. The penalty is up to three years in prison.

The collection of fines, for not complying with the traffic ban, will be through payments to basic services, Romo said.

Minister María Paula Romo said that if within 24 hours no member of the family has expressed the will to take care of the burial or cremation of a person who died by covid 19, at that time the State takes over.

https://www.elcomercio.com/actualidad/ecuador-coronavirus-contagios-covid19-fallecidos.html


330 posted on 04/09/2020 7:31:55 AM PDT by LilFarmer ("Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unbelievable they’d allow anyone from China within a mile of POTUS.


331 posted on 04/09/2020 7:33:27 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: All

“Community Generosity Brings New Ventilators to Humboldt but Capacity Still a Critical Concern”

- see https://www.northcoastjournal.com/NewsBlog/archives/2020/04/04/community-generosity-brings-new-ventilators-to-humboldt-but-capacity-still-a-critical-concern


332 posted on 04/09/2020 7:39:08 AM PDT by Fury
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To: BobL

WHO still on record ‘We’re Not Seeing’ Airborne Transmission
As of 3/30/20

A World Health Organization official says the evidence so far shows that the virus that causes COVID-19 is primarily transmitted through “respiratory droplets and contact routes” — from coughs and sneezes — and doesn’t seem to linger in the air.

Based on the available evidence, including the recent publications mentioned above, WHO continues to recommend droplet and contact precautions for those people caring for COVID-19 patients. WHO continues to recommend airborne precautions for circumstances and settings in which aerosol generating procedures and support treatment are performed, according to risk assessment.13 These recommendations are consistent with other national and international guidelines, including those developed by the European Society of Intensive Care Medicine and Society of Critical Care Medicine14 and those currently used in Australia, Canada, and United Kingdom.15-17

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/03/30/823905477/who-official-defends-guidance-we-re-not-seeing-airborne-transmission

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations


333 posted on 04/09/2020 7:43:30 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As has been said, a vacuum sealer is nice. However, you don’t need one.

What would be convenient is to turn the produce you can’t use is to turn it into a ready to nuke frozen meal in case you need dinner without the effort if you’re sick. Think soup, quiche or casserole.


334 posted on 04/09/2020 7:53:15 AM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: LilFarmer
"I think it might wane, but I think it will come roaring back in the fall. Based on some history the second wave might be worse. I wish it would go the way of SARS..."

I think it will wane shortly because of the social distancing, but an R0 of 5.7 is extremely infectious. The virus isn't going anywhere.

I don't think there will be a "second wave" on a national level, although colder temps in the fall will increase infection rates for the same reasons as it does the flu, thereby increasing the need for and the level and duration of social distancing measures. They may call that a second wave.

They will attempt to attain a steady rate of infections and deaths, with the plan being that the cases are within what the systems can handle.

We will get our 100,000 to 240,000 deaths, it will just take 12 to 18 months.

There will be uncontrolled outbreaks in cities and regions that have to be tamped down, as the infection rates will threaten the ability of the system to handle them.

There will be some measure they will try to hit and not go over or below, say for instance 50% to 75% of healthcare capacity.

They will institute various social distancing measures. For instance, it may be enough to just close restaurants and non essential retail to slow the spread enough in that area, or they may have to shut the schools, too, and finally a full lockdown, shelter in place order.

It's going to be a rolling, ever changing shuttering of different levels of activity in different areas until herd immunity is achieved (85% or more of population with resolved cases for this level of R0) or a similar proportion of people are vaccinated.

New York is going to have to remain on a significant lockdown because of the density of people and reliance on mass transit.

There are so many variables for each area that they are going to have to look at, it's really mind boggling.

They will get better at it as we go along in terms of how much infections are limited by various methods.

For my R0 of 5.7 reference:

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0282_article?deliveryName=USCDC_333-DM25287
335 posted on 04/09/2020 7:57:20 AM PDT by BusterDog
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To: BusterDog

A primary variable is exposure to sunshine.

as people go outside in the sun, exposure will seem to wane. Women who never go outside will be hardest hit


336 posted on 04/09/2020 7:59:45 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: CodeJockey

“WHO still on record ‘We’re Not Seeing’ Airborne Transmission
As of 3/30/20”

Tell me about it. WHAT A JOKE!!!


337 posted on 04/09/2020 8:00:43 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

The US should IMMEDIATELY stop funding WHO.

An investigation should be made into this idiotic director, Teglos, or whatever his name is.


338 posted on 04/09/2020 8:01:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; bgill; LilFarmer; Black Agnes; All

HUGE EXCLUSIVE: Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli Ran Coronavirus Research in Wuhan After US Project Was Shut Down by DHS in 2014 for Being Too Risky — PRIOR LEAK KILLED RESEARCHER

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-exclusive-chinese-doctor-shi-zhengli-ran-coronavirus-research-wuhan-us-project-shut-dhs-2014-risky-prior-leak-killed-researcher/

(Yeah, it’s GP...but, he’s been spot on, on a lot of things, lately)...

Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli was part of a team that working on a coronavirus project jointly with US doctors in 2014 before it was shut down by the DHS for being too risky.

After the US research project was shut down, Dr. Shi continued her coronavirus research in Wuhan, China.


339 posted on 04/09/2020 8:05:18 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

The one they call “Batwoman” and now “Patient Zero”.


340 posted on 04/09/2020 8:11:56 AM PDT by chris37 (Coronavirus wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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