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Reminder: World War 1 started after the assassination of a European leader
FR ^ | May 17 | Me

Posted on 05/17/2024 8:21:41 PM PDT by RandFan

I always remember from history class that WW1 started for some sad reason (the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand). I always thought how stupid / futile it was considering what it led to.

Yet here we are with the Slovak PM assassination attempt.

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип, pronounced [ɡǎʋrilo prǐntsip]; 25 July 1894 – 28 April 1918) was a Bosnian Serb student who assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir presumptive to the throne of Austria-Hungary, and his wife Sophie, Duchess von Hohenberg, in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914. The killing of the Archduke and his wife set off the July Crisis, a chain of events that within one month led to the outbreak of World War I.

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To: dfwgator
I don’t think Bush would have done it.

The Democrats controlled Congress in 1992. He could have proposed it. But more likely, it would have gone nowhere.

21 posted on 05/17/2024 9:29:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Plus Foggy Bottom wanted to rub the Russians noses in it.


22 posted on 05/17/2024 9:32:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RandFan

It was the assassination of the hier to an important throne, nit the attempted assassination of the head of government of a minor state


23 posted on 05/17/2024 9:41:58 PM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: RandFan; All

For reference...just an odd part of this story...Crown-Prince Ferdinand was actually the 3rd Crown-Prince and was not supposed to be in line for the King’s job.

Crown-Prince number one...Rudoph was set to be the guy, and was actually married. Somewhere around 1887, he got tangled up in a sexed-up relationship with a 17-year-old Baroness and was overly consumed with her. About a year into this relationship...his handlers told him to drop it. He couldn’t. He ended up at some hunting lodge...with the lover...and both committed suicide.

Set to be next king was Karl Ludwig, but he ended up with Typhoid Fever, and died.

So Ferdinand was stuck with the job. Interesting thing about him....from his teens, he was consumed with passion for hunting. He probably averaged 300 days a year on hunts throughout Europe. I doubt if you could find anyone in Europe who was more capable with a rifle than this guy.


24 posted on 05/17/2024 9:48:49 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: RandFan
Interesting, TikToker States 4 Facts Surrounding Coups and Assassination Attempts Involving the WHO Rumble video 1:01
25 posted on 05/17/2024 9:48:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: RandFan

IMHO Austrian Intelligence knew about the assassination plot and (for reasons of their own) decided not to just ignore it, but to actively help, by printing the Archduke’s route in the paper and ensuring there was only a skeleton police force on duty.


26 posted on 05/17/2024 9:52:37 PM PDT by Thurifer the Censer (If you can see the altar, there's not enough smoke)
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Would this happen to be an Op-Ed by a world leader?


27 posted on 05/17/2024 10:31:29 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: laxcoach

“That war was a fire looking for a spark. The assassination was an excuse, not the cause.”

Yep. The Austrians deliberately made the terms too onerous for Serbia to accept. They wanted war with Serbia. They didn’t expect Russia to act. That pulled in France and Germany and it was on.


28 posted on 05/18/2024 12:43:28 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Good point. Recall when Germany and others in the EU wanted their own military? They were having a fit because Trump, the Great, wanted everyone to pay up.
Then Germany discovered that they didn’t have any men...so then floated the concept of allowing non Europeans to join up. LOL
That bit of brilliance soon faded.


29 posted on 05/18/2024 2:41:01 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: dfwgator

This

Bismarkian alliance juggling did not allow for the fragility of human ego reason and emotion being triggered by what should have been a minor diplomatic crisis into a deadly conflict between alliances


30 posted on 05/18/2024 4:51:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: RandFan
Reminder: World War 1 started after the assassination of a European leader

Yup, and WW2 started when a crazy leader said he wanted to protect his people in another country, regain historic lands and then using that pretext, invaded a neighboring country.

Imagine, that happening today.

31 posted on 05/18/2024 5:00:46 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: RandFan

The continent of Europe is in a constant state of war.
Better for us to stay out of it.

Thomas Jefferson

The continent of europe was at war when Jesus Christ was born. It will still be at war when our great grandchildren are old and grey.
Better for us to stay out of it


32 posted on 05/18/2024 6:33:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: RandFan

A squabble between the grand children of Queen Victoria. It caused a world war.


33 posted on 05/18/2024 7:01:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: tlozo

WW2 was a continuation of WW1, smoldering German historic ambition and resentment rekindled by the humiliation heaped on Germany by the Treaty of Versailles


34 posted on 05/18/2024 9:34:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The Kaiser even wrote a letter to Czar Nicky begging him to hold off on the Russian mobilization.

But too many German generals were of the mindset that Russia was modernizing the point, that it was a case of “Now or Never”, and forced the Kaiser’s hand.


35 posted on 05/18/2024 9:37:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RandFan

This kicked off due to the Kaiser of Germany giving Austria a blank check to do what ever they wanted before heading out on a 4 month cruise.


36 posted on 05/18/2024 11:32:28 AM PDT by DownInFlames (p)
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