Posted on 03/15/2002 6:54:33 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
I do too, it is kind of on topic, Legolas was always going on about it.
" Easier to have them watch a video than take them outside, and little ones are no longer allowed to roam the neighborhood any more for fear of creeps.
You're probably right, but I still think it plays into the hands of the left, whom I do regard as conspiratorial, that is I think they are not always honest about their motives.
Sounds like you are good for your friend's daughter, I don't think the mother may have had much independence as a child?
My brothers and I grew up on a farm in a very rural area. Our parents passed on a while ago, but we still have the place and I still spend time in the woods. There's lots of wildlife there, usually the best times to see it are early evening, just before dark, or sunrise, when all the animals wake up and start moving around.
Yes, it suddenly and delightfully seems that an awful lot of us feel this way. It's very nice to find it out. I guess it's pretty clear that Tolkien did also, it's quite wonderful that he could illustrate his love for trees and forests through stories about such beings as elves, as well as various dark creatures.
I think a lot of it is the over-scheduling of kids with classes and activities. I kind of doubt it's a good thing, overall.
I think that quote sums it up perfectly. Elrond may remember the First Age, but he was born near the end of that time; Galadriel goes back to Valinor itself, and walked in the light of the Two Trees.
Something else that makes a difference, I think, is that Rivendell acted as a haven for travellers on the East/West Road, the "Last Homely House" west of the Misty Mountains. Lothlorien is a haven for Elves; other races did not often visit there, and therefore the Elves there weren't as comfortable around other races as the Elves in Rivendell would have been.
I think it reflects Frodo's growth as the Ring-bearer. When he was in Rivendell, he was still too inexperienced to perceive Elrond's ring; by the time he gets to Lothlorien he has grown wiser. Galadriel herself comments on this, after she shows him the Mirror: "Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight is grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger?"
Maybe that reflects the Noldorin influence (Lorien) versus the Sindarin influence (Rivendell). The Noldor made the Silmarils and went to war with Morgoth to recover them; the Sindar "missed the boat" for Valinor because they were goofing off too much on the trip to the coast. ;)
Oh, THAT'S what he said! When my daughter and I saw the movie the other day, I noticed that part. Gandalf pushed Aragorn and said something to him which caused a look of hurt, surprise and questioning on Aragorn's face, then Gandalf said "swords are no more use here". Now I understand the hurt look on Aragorn's face. Not just the being pushed by Gandalf, but the shove combined with the sharp admonition to "Do as I say!".
Mmmm..Boromir!
I think this section had some of the worst editing of the entire movie. In the book at this point Gandalf stays behind and attempts to block the balrog from passing through the door (not that he was sure it was a balrog yet). In the movie he tells Aragorn to lead the group ahead, but then he stays right with them all the way to the bridge.
BTW, one part I really missed in themovie was where Gandalf is confronting the balrog on the bridge and Aragorn, followed by Boromir, runs to support him. The image (in the book) of these pitifully weak men charging against such overwhelming power always affected me about as much as Sam's attack on Shelob. It also illustrates why Boromir was gradually accepting Aragorn as his leader.
(Pardon my getting out of sequence with regard to Shelob.)
HOTD your favoritism is showing. The other day someone BRIEFLY mentioned Legolas and you were right there with a picture. SuziQ mentions Boromir and DAYS pass without even a hint of a pic.
Here you go SuziQ:
;^)
-Kevin
THANK YOU! Smooch Smooch!! Nice Kevinses!!
Call me kooky but I liked the book version of Haldir. That spilled over to the movie version, although he was definitely snootier in the movie. If that is really him during that scene at the top of the wall at Helm's Deep I won't be disappointed. I think he would be a good man, er, elf, to have at your side in a battle.
-Kevin
What was that again about Legolas?
Yeah, well I noticed you posted a pic that included Boromir. You old softy you ;^)
-Kevin
I don't think he was particularly cold in the book. He didn't seem to really want to single Gimli out for blindfolding. He appealed that it was their law, so he was bound to blindfold Gimli.
-Kevin
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