[HairOfTheDog]

See last two posts above, I meant to ping you also, and goofed.

[Sam Cree]

"But we must have power, power to order all things as we will, for that good which only the Wise can see."

Gandalf quoting Saruman at the council. Sounds like the socialist mantra about the common good and central planning, doesn't it. Sounds like something a democrat would think or say.