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Fellowship of the Ring

Topic: Moria

Pertinent Chapters - Book II
Chapter IV – A Journey in the Dark
Chapter V – The Bridge of Kazad-Dûm

Hullo Friends! – In this section the fellowship, defeated by Caradhras, decides to take the route under the Misty Mountains through the long dark of Moria. Only Gimli looks forward to the journey with any eagerness:

`This is the great realm and city of the Dwarrowdelf. And of old it was not darksome, but full of light and splendour, as is still remembered in our songs.' [Gimli sings a song of Moria in it's glory days which I have not repeated here, but is in the chapter]

`I like that! ' said Sam. `I should like to learn it. In Moria, in Khazad-dûm! But it makes the darkness seem heavier, thinking of all those lamps. Are there piles of jewels and gold lying about here still? '

Gimli was silent. Having sung his song he would say no more.

`Piles of jewels? ' said Gandalf. `No. The Orcs have often plundered Moria; there is nothing left in the upper halls. And since the dwarves fled, no one dares to seek the shafts and treasuries down in the deep places: they are drowned in water--or in a shadow of fear.'

`Then what do the dwarves want to come back for? ' asked Sam.

'For mithril,' answered Gandalf. `The wealth of Moria was not in gold and jewels, the toys of the Dwarves; nor in iron, their servant. Such things they found here, it is true, especially iron; but they did not need to delve for them: all things that they desired they could obtain in traffic. For here alone in the world was found Moria-silver, or true-silver as some have called it: mithril is the Elvish name. The Dwarves have a name which they do not tell. Its worth was ten times that of gold, and now it is beyond price; for little is left above ground, and even the Orcs dare not delve here for it. The lodes lead away north towards Caradhras, and down to darkness. The Dwarves tell no tale; but even as mithril was the foundation of their wealth, so also it was their destruction: they delved too greedily and too deep, and disturbed that from which they fled, Durin's Bane…

So Hullo! – Good Morning! A lot happens in Moria… Lets discuss, theorize and get to the really important issues!

Do Balrogs have wings?

Here is a small map that shows where we are:

Also check out Penny's Movie Pictures for a lot of great movie pics from Moria.

And here is a The whole map of Middle-Earth So we don't get lost!

Index to thread… click link to find the start of each prior chapter discussion:
(First Five chapters are re-posts of highlights from the old forum)

Prologue and Chapter One – A Long-Expected Party
Chapter Two - The Shadow of the Past
Chapter Three – Three is Company … And also here – double post! ugh!
Chapter Four – A Shortcut to Mushrooms
Chapter Five – A Conspiracy Unmasked
End of re-posts

Chapter Six – The Old Forest
Chapter Seven – In The House of Tom Bombadil
Chapter Eight – Fog on the Barrow-Downs
Chapter Nine – At the Sign of the Prancing Pony

New "section" format:

Bree (chapters 9-11)
Journey from Bree to the Ford (chapters 11-12)
Rivendell (Book 2 - chapters 1-3)
The Ring goes South (chapters 3-4)
Moria - Current (chapters 4-5)

Sections still to come:
Lothlorien (chapters 6-8)
The Breaking of the Fellowship (chapters 9-10)


581 posted on 05/13/2002 9:32:48 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Before we get too far, I need to make one BILL THE PONY post! - In appreciation of his service, and in the hope he finds his way to safety and green pastures!

At the gate, they release their beast of burden Bill.

`…in any case we cannot take the poor beast into the Mines,' said Gandalf. `The road under the mountains is a dark road, and there are places narrow and steep which he cannot tread, even if we can.'

`Poor old Bill! ' said Frodo. `I had not thought of that. And poor Sam! I wonder what he will say? '

`I am sorry,' said Gandalf. `Poor Bill has been a useful companion and it goes to my heart to turn him adrift now. I would have travelled lighter and brought no animal, least of all this one that Sam is fond of, if I had had my way. I feared all along that we should be obliged to take this road…'

… He laid his hand on the pony's head, and spoke in a low voice. `Go with words of guard and guiding on you,' he said. `You are a wise beast, and have learned much in Rivendell. Make your ways to places where you can find grass, and so come in time to Elrond's house, or wherever you wish to go.

`There, Sam! He will have quite as much chance of escaping wolves and getting home as we have.'

I don't remember... Do we ever hear if Bill returns to Rivendell or anywhere else safely? - Can I just assume he does?

582 posted on 05/13/2002 9:42:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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