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To: HairOfTheDog
A little flippant on my last reply.

On a more serious note, if Moria was a trade center for the dwarves why is the path to the west so narrow and hard to negotiate. I can understand a few tight spots like the bridge that Gandalf falls from, but it seems the whole place is difficult to get through. Also, I always pictured the gates on the west as being bigger, but maybe that was just me.

594 posted on 05/13/2002 10:44:37 AM PDT by doubled
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To: doubled
I think the West entrance was not always so narrow and hard to get to. The river that flowed out of it had been dammed up (by the watcher in the water) causing the lake that flooded the valley up to the door, and the stairway was probably not always treacherous, but had fallen into disrepair...
595 posted on 05/13/2002 10:53:33 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: doubled
On a more serious note, if Moria was a trade center for the dwarves why is the path to the west so narrow and hard to negotiate.

Moria (or Khazad-Dum as it was then called) was not exactly a trade center: it was the *home* of the Dwarves: the oldest of their great cities. They didn't have a lot to do with outsiders, especially during the First Age. In the Second Age, they became very friendly with the Smiths of Eregion in what became Hollin; but after Sauron destroyed Eregion and scattered or slew the Noldor there, the Dwarves shut the West Gate: Sauron laid siege to it for quite some time, but wasn't able to get in.

As another poster pointed out, the Gate Stream used to flow freely through a wooded valley before passing down into Hollin via a series of falls; along this was a road which conected Eregion and Khazad-Dum. By the time of the War of the Ring, the whole region was desolate, the Gate Stream had been dammed up and turned into a lake with the Watcher inside it, and the road had pretty much ceased to exist.

Tuor

617 posted on 05/13/2002 7:29:24 PM PDT by Tuor
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