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To: sweetliberty
This is what I would consider real hate speech and it's pretty scary. But you know, I still do not question their right to do it. I think it is better to know what what we're up against.

The Baby Face of Hate

This is indeed hate speech. I agree that hate speech is protected and they have a right to say anything they want. I also think that any Muslim not willing to condemn this as dispicable and contrary to the Koran is not fit to continue to live in the modern world and should not be allowed to do so.

I also feel that what that lunatic preacher said yesterday was protected and he had a right to say it. I also think any Christian not willing to condemn it as dispicable and un Christian is not fit to continue to live in the modern world, and should not be allowed to do so.

So9

66 posted on 06/14/2002 9:00:34 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: Servant of the Nine
Swerve, I gotta disagree with you about the remarks the preacher made. Not only does he have a right to say what he did, but a responsibility as well. There is no question historically that Mohammed was a murderer, a thief and a pedophile. And as far as what belongs in the spiritual domain, which is where a CLOSED convention of only Southern Baptist leaders rightfully belongs, anything at all that is in keeping with the Scriptures is entirely appropriate and a case can be made scripturally that he may well have been demon possessed, so what we have here has nothing to do with so-called hate speech. That is simply the liberal buzz word used to rally their ranks against anything they don't like, which in this case seems to be truth and Biblical teaching.

By their reasoning, it should be perfectly okay for a Christian to infiltrate a gathering of Muslim leaders and then go out and condemn what they teach as a part of their religion, which seems to be the embodiment of hate. While we might rightfully condemn their teaching, it is not our place to try and change it to force them to go against what they believe to be "holy." They might not like it that many Christians believe that Mohammed was a demon-possessed pedophile, but their liking or not liking it doesn't change the facts. If their faith is so great in their "prophet" why are they so threatened?

And before you go saying that this kind of comment incites violence against a certain group of people, I don't think that is a valid argument, unless of course you think their is a conspiracy afoot among Southern Baptist leaders to overthrow Islam in America by force. And keep in mind, they SHOULD have been the only people hearing it. Granted, there have been acts of violence and vandalism against SOME Muslims and mosques, as well as against some who are of mideastern descent, regardless of religion, but I do not believe for a second that any teaching of any church was behind it, but rather some real Americans from various walks of life who are striking out in anger at the closest thing to the enemy that they perceive in their own lives. Are they justified in doing so? Of course not, but the evil that has been building and that we saw culminate in the horrific assault on our country and our people on 9/11, most of them innocent civilians, has had an incredible impact on the psyches of most Americans and because of it we know that we will never be quite the same again. It is a condition of war and of trauma, but certainly not an act of the church.

68 posted on 06/14/2002 11:20:18 AM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Servant of the Nine
Is this Amerika?
69 posted on 06/14/2002 11:32:48 AM PDT by Rowdee
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