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Secession or Expatriation?
Consevative Hideout ^ | 4/1/10 | Ken Minor

Posted on 04/02/2010 2:15:34 PM PDT by Wanderer659

With all the differences that have appeared in our society it is likely that some of them or in fact irreconcilable. I will never be in favor of redistribution of the wealth and I suspect my liberal counterpart cannot bear ceasing to try and control me. On these things I think that we will never come to a meeting of the minds. To that I say so be it. You go your way and I will go mine. As it is there are more conservatives in America than there are liberals. If you looked at the most liberal states you would essential have the northeast, Chicago (not all of Illinois is communist), Wisconsin, and California. These total a dozen far left leaning states including the District of Columbia.

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I've never thought of it in this way before.
1 posted on 04/02/2010 2:15:34 PM PDT by Wanderer659
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To: Wanderer659
The only hurdle to this is the incessant drive of those on the Utopian left to control others and “change” them.
2 posted on 04/02/2010 2:20:16 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Wanderer659
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3 posted on 04/02/2010 2:20:41 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR.......Monthly Donors Wanted.)
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To: Wanderer659

So we push them out. I like it. Can we put up border fences then?


4 posted on 04/02/2010 2:26:19 PM PDT by esquirette (Rally around Old Glory. Put one on your desk, outside the house, and on the car. Fly a flag.)
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To: Wanderer659

I have thought of it this way.

Conservatives seek only to control their own destiny. Leftists seek to control us.

Control of your fellow man is not a God given right. The Left needs to control their own impulses for intruding on another’s rights and liberty, or, as the author suggests, leave.


5 posted on 04/02/2010 2:29:44 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: Wanderer659
I'm reminded of that map of the 2000 election I think it was, broken down by county, red and blue. Let the liberals have the blue counties.
6 posted on 04/02/2010 2:34:54 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
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To: esquirette

I would think so, but they’ll probably have to build one to keep their own people in.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 2:35:46 PM PDT by Wanderer659
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To: Wanderer659

With all the differences that have appeared in our society it is likely that some of them or in fact irreconcilable. I will never be in favor of redistribution of the wealth and I suspect my liberal counterpart cannot bear ceasing to try and control me. On these things I think that we will never come to a meeting of the minds. To that I say so be it. You go your way and I will go mine. As it is there are more conservatives in America than there are liberals. If you looked at the most liberal states you would essential have the northeast, Chicago (not all of Illinois is communist), Wisconsin, and California. These total a dozen far left leaning states including the District of Columbia.

To these I say bye bye as you are herewith removed from the United States of America and are now free to go about whatever agenda you wish. We conservatives and moderates will maintain the Government of the United States of America only with fewer states; and of course and new capitol (oh I love this part), a brand new congress, and a shiny new president. These people must all be vetted and back-door appointment not allowed. As America we hold title to the dollar, George Washington, the Constitution, and the US Military. We will however allow any leftist in any state or job to leave before we expatriate these states.

We have the majority. We have the desire. We have the motivation and the right. The only thing lacking is the doing. This is a very non-violent thing and we wish our liberal brethren ever success with their skewed philosophies. Perhaps in the cleansing of America of what ails her we can bring about another 200+ years of prosperity and leadership to the world.

The doing of this idea I think is very realistic. We don’t need walls or to change our IDs but the new United Socialist States may need or desire those things. May I suggest tattoos on their forehead or hands. As they tell it now we are to be feared more than anything. In their minds nothing is more dangerous than a “Conservative”. Of course there would be some changes for those folk. Without our money Nancy would have to give up her plane and, and… Come to think of it they won’t need Nancy anymore, or Harry, or Barry O. Oh well. You have to break eggs to make an omelet.

Back here in the Great US of A we could start up our self-sufficiency again. We could fire up our steel mills and start paying farmers to grow crops again. It would be so great to see America back doing what she does best, leading the way. Sure we could trade with other countries, just not at the expense of American jobs and we could put strict limits on the numbers of lead painted toys we import. We could even end entitlements due to the number of new jobs available in manufacturing and farming. Surely we have some folks who would take those jobs now. Then again, they may have all moved to the United Socialist States. You can’t win them all.


8 posted on 04/02/2010 2:35:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: highlander_UW

Let the liberals have the blue counties? Man, talk about a border patrol problem.

But seriously, what would be done with the lefties in the red states. I say swap them for the conservatives in the blue states.


9 posted on 04/02/2010 2:37:11 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Founding Fathers.....grave....rolling over.)
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To: Wanderer659

The only way secession would work is if a state were willing to refuse ALL federal money.


10 posted on 04/02/2010 2:38:08 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Wanderer659

“Secession or Expatriation”?
How about outright overthrow?
Bastards obviously aren’t following our wants and needs, so?


11 posted on 04/02/2010 2:39:21 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: Slyfox

If a state secedes, there is no federal money.


12 posted on 04/02/2010 2:44:07 PM PDT by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: Joe Boucher
“Secession or Expatriation”? How about outright overthrow? Bastards obviously aren’t following our wants and needs, so?

Then what are going to do with the socialists. You aren't going to kill them, or imprison them. They will just be noisy citizens that you have to deal with. I like the fact that we expatriate the liberal states and then not deal with them at all except to sell them goods.
13 posted on 04/02/2010 2:46:42 PM PDT by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: Wanderer659

Not so simple. The left will control you or kill you. In this, it is exactly the same as islam.


14 posted on 04/02/2010 2:52:24 PM PDT by Hardraade
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To: Misplaced Texan
You are forgetting that each state depends on federal handouts. How many states would be willing or able to go cold turkey and refuse the funding when, unfortunately, so much of a state's working requires regular infusement of federal dollars?

Would any state be willing to forgo the money that they get for enforcing a federal mandate such as a seat belt law, for one?

It would take quite a bit of time to disengage from all the laws and the money the feds use as an incentive to force compliance.

15 posted on 04/02/2010 2:56:23 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Terry Mross

Most people would gravitate to the country that allowed them to continue their chosen lifestyles. It would be hilarious!


16 posted on 04/02/2010 3:06:48 PM PDT by Wanderer659
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To: EGPWS

That’s why talk of secession drives the left NUTS.

They can’t bear the thought of people actually escaping their control.


17 posted on 04/02/2010 3:07:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: southernsunshine

They either need to control their impulses to be busybodies,

or get used to having extra holes.


18 posted on 04/02/2010 3:08:14 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Terry Mross

Voluntary emigration.

Lefties will leave the “red states” when there are no more goodies for the sheep,

and no possibility of controlling other people’s lives for the self appointed “shepherds”.


19 posted on 04/02/2010 3:09:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Hardraade

People need to understand your simple truth.

The left will not stop until you are enslaved or dead.

They will not “allow” you to live free.

So, what do we do? /rhetorical


20 posted on 04/02/2010 3:10:31 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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