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Sheriff Joe: 'Show me the microfilm!'
World Net Daily ^ | November 01, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/03/2011 4:44:39 AM PDT by 1234

Sheriff Joe Arpaio came up with the idea to demand the original microfilm of Obama's birth certificate after he saw evidence from his Cold Case Posse in Maricopa County, Ariz., that the White House apparently released to the public three different versions of the long-form birth certificate.

"Show me the microfilm, not the copies the White House released," Arpaio has insisted.

What the White House released on April 27 were not original documents but purportedly scans of original birth documents that remain in the Hawaii Department of Health vault.

WND reported yesterday that in 1966, the Hawaii Department of Health provided microfilm copies to Mrs. Eleanor Nordyke of the birth certificates for her twins, born the day after Obama in the same hospital.

"Obama's birth certificate is either on that microfilm roll along with the Nordyke twins' birth certificate, or it's not," Arpaio said.

Sources close to the sheriff's law enforcement investigation explained to WND that Arpaio had come up with a solution to end almost immediately a controversy over the Obama birth certificate that has continued since 2008.

"If the microfilm exists, show us the reel. That's the best evidence the document existed in 1961, not the three different versions the White House released on April 27."

The White House released three versions of Obama's long-form birth certificate, each one of which appears fundamentally different from the other two.

Read more: Sheriff Joe: 'Show me the microfilm!' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=363025#ixzz1cdoI63hu

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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; naturalborncitizen
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wanna get to the bottom of this before the Democratic primaries
1 posted on 11/03/2011 4:44:43 AM PDT by 1234
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To: 1234

Unfortunately Sherriff Joe has wasyed his time with this.
Obama isn’t about to allow this as the microfilm does not exist.

What shpould happen is that the people in Hawaii who allowed themselves to be used should be arrested for being accomplices in the biggest fraud that was ever perpetrated in this country.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 5:22:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 1234

Way to Go Sheriff Joe!


3 posted on 11/03/2011 5:36:38 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (New Day In America November 03, 2010)
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To: Qwackertoo

Let’s not forget the social security number issue. SJ is all over this...getting to the bottom of this doesn’t require BHO to sign off.


4 posted on 11/03/2011 5:57:59 AM PDT by maineman (BC EAGLES FAN)
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To: Venturer; MestaMachine; OneWingedShark

Arpaio has just cause to believe that Obama perjured himself in Arizona by signing an affidavit saying that he is eligible to be President, when it is increasingly clear by the forgeries he has produced that Obama knows very well that he has no Hawaii birth certificate. As a law enforcement entity, I would think Arpaio could get a warrant for the microfilm that would have Obama’s BC if there was one, and get access to that right now.

That’s what he needs to do. Don’t give them time to try to manipulate the microfilms at the HDOH like they did with the newspaper microfilms at multiple libraries - as even the librarian indirectly admitted when she said that the microfilm they have was so POORLY MICROFILMED, which would not happen from the professional microfilming company who supposedly supplied the microfilms they have.

In fact, is anybody here associated with the AZ Tea Party? I know that Corsi has been advising the AZ Posse but he has totally blown off the evidence that the newspaper microfilms were tampered with. Now that it’s been reported that this is what Arpaio wants, the HDOH will go to work on forging the microfilm. Some have said that there are companies that specialize in black-market supplies for creating “aged” forgeries. If so, then the longer Arpaio waits before getting an actual warrant, the more time they have to fabricate exactly what he’s looking for.

He also needs to know to get a warrant/subpoena for the HDOH computer transaction logs because there is just cause to believe that the HDOH has altered records and/or blatantly lied and committed misprision of felonies for Obama’s sake. Somebody has said that those could be altered also, although somebody else said that there are so many cross-checks that it would be very, very difficult to alter them without leaving some sign of the alteration. Again, the more time these people have to work on it, the better their chances of getting away with fraud.

Arpaio would do well to talk to Dr. Neal Palafox also. I believe Palafox may have been the snag in the plan to release Obama’s fake long-form, which Abercrombie appears to have been preparing the public to receive. IMHO, it was partially because Palafox balked (at putting a forged record into the books at the HDOH) that Abercrombie stumbled and admitted to a Star-Advertiser columnist (who then vaguely reported it) that they don’t have a convincing BC for Obama in Hawaii, and to his friend, Mike Evans, that they don’t have ANY BC for Obama in HI.

If anybody here has access to Arpaio and/or his posse, could you please pass this along? Back when Trump was going to meet with the Arizona folks about Obama’s eligibility, I spoke with the guy who introduced their eligibility bill. At that time he said somebody would contact me so I could make sure that the info I have was also considered in that. Nobody ended up contacting me, for whatever reason. My e-mails were being manipulated at that time so who knows what happened. Since then I have not been in contact with anybody in AZ. I figured Corsi and the others would have most things covered. But I really think Arpaio needs to know that microfilm manipulation is something these people have already done (albeit badly) and have been learning what they did wrong. He should also know that the HI offices have not been forthcoming with requests for information regarding where their microfilm security copies are stored and who has access to them. So the folks in HI have had a long time to work on this. And they are wormy critters who have lied, broken laws, and altered records for Obama’s sake - as I’ve documented on my blog, which anybody can look at.

Maybe the AZ folks could be pinged, to see if anybody has access to Arpaio?


5 posted on 11/03/2011 6:02:20 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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6 posted on 11/03/2011 6:24:55 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/a-birther-recants/123


7 posted on 11/03/2011 6:26:07 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: 1234; butterdezillion
Ah, it's good to be on the same page with Sheriff Joe!

Finally some one in officialdom has cottoned on to what we have been telling people for months. That is, the "document" released by the WH in their attempt to quash this "Birth Certificate" thing is no "Certified Copy" of an actual document on file in Hawaii.

Rather what the WH released was a copy of an ABSTRACT of data purportedly on file in Hawaii; a copy they obviously enhanced a bit to make it look more "official."

Next time you go to register a vehicle or boat, try giving the DMV a copy of an "Abstract of Title," instead of the real thing. (But please notice that at no time did the WH actually say this was a "Copy of the President's Birth Certificate." In fact, on day one, they subtly announced it was an "abstract" and let it go at that. The MSM did the rest for them. Frankly, on technical grounds I doubt if they actually committed a crime!)

But as usual, the good Doctor Corsi, and Joseph Farah have got the "Birth Certificate" cart before the "Natural Born Citizen" horse. That is, it enables Team Obama to focus the citizens' collective eye on Hawaii, instead gazing directly at Article II of the Constitution.

Good Sheriff Joe should IMHO, go to The AG of Arizona and get him to issue a CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE to the placement of the Mombasa MF on the ballot in Arizona. A definitive answer is needed to the question, "How can a person with just one citizen parent be a "Natural Born Citizen?" It is entirely possible for a person born in Hawaii to be a citizen, yet be ineligible to run for President. That is where the confusion begins, and should have ended.

Theory and Tactics:
The previous cases have failed because in large part they tended to depend upon issues involving the "standing" of the Plaintiff, i.e., the right to even bring suit in a particular legal venue.

By simply challenging the Magic Marxist Mulatto's constitutional right to be on the ballot, a state AG would make Team Obama the Plaintiff. This would fast-track the issue through the state and federal courts no matter which side appealed the decisions.

Of course, Team Obama might choose to simply not be on the ballot in that state. Abraham Lincoln was not on the ballot in the Southern States, a precedent of which Team Obama cannot be unaware. It means the possibility of a three-way, with BHO, Jr. and his rock solid "urban" support just might have enough to take a minority-vote Presidency on electoral votes ... another fact of which Team Obama must be acutely aware.

But one state AG could be all that is needed to bring down the curtain on this farce.

8 posted on 11/03/2011 6:34:33 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (You mean to tell me that Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this out?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

This is good. But what is needed is more ‘bottoms up’ approach. They need to investigate the small players and apply pressure to them to get cracks in the cone of silence.

Examples:

1.Joe Miller and Jess Henig and the infamous COLB. Clearly they did not really take those photos of a forged document. They intentionally left out specifics in their blog based ‘article’. They never said what day the photos were taken - though the internal time-stamps indicate March and not August.

2.Brian Schatz not submitting a proper Hawaii nomination form since it excluded. Why? Oversight? Hardly. He knew the wording was not in there and why it is not in there. If an oversight, he could have fixed it and not made Ms. Pelosi fix it. He clearly did not want to be on the record as declaring Obama eligible. So did he, personally, try to defraud the people of Hawaii with his incomplete document? If so, should he not be put under the microscope as to his actions.

3.Okubo. She is clearly a deep player at HDOH.

etc., etc.

So it people like this who need to feel some pressure and some spotlighting. Then the story will tell itself from those on the inside and they scurry for cover as the wall of lies collapses.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 7:02:19 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6
.....the story will tell itself .....

Story? There is no story here. That is precisely the public problem. The MSM is now and has always been in shutdown/spin mode on the issue. This week, as the US and Europe totter on the brink of a World Depression, the MSM story is the Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Case.

Today's uninformed Wal-Mart shoppers know much more about Lindsey Lohan and Casey Anthony than they ever will know (or care) about The Constitution, The Republic, or who their County Commissioners are. That is how the Mombasa Moonbeam was elected in the first place.

To paraphrase PT Barnum, "No one ever lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the voters." IMHO, the electorate was much better informed (and smaller) in the days when towns had opposing newspapers, a HS Diploma meant you might be able to read them, and young men knew they were going to be drafted for military service.

Then Kennedy stole Illinois and the long slide began.

10 posted on 11/03/2011 8:50:02 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this eligibility stuff out?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I don’t think we have one state AG with the guts to do it. That’s why it was so important for Obama’s thugs to make the threats to the media and to get them to ignore the issue immediately and then, when the Obama handlers saw the issue wasn’t going to go away, actually require the media to RIDICULE the issue. The whole thing was psy-ops to ensure that nobody in law enforcement or government would be willing to commit political or career suicide by exposing the whole darn government as the racket it is.

Sheriff Joe is a breath of fresh air. Badly needed fresh air, since the country is dying of methane inhalation. They have thrown everything in the book at him, and he just doesn’t care. Good for the people of AZ who have the wisdom to recognize a gem when they see one - and to flip the bird at the whole stinking political-media carcass by re-electing and supporting Sheriff Joe in spite of all the fumes the whole carcass propels in their direction.

In order to get the Constitutional issue on the table we have to know who Obama’s father was, and unfortunately, at this point we can’t believe anything he or the State of Hawaii have said, because the whole system has been caught in lie after lie and crime after crime. So getting accurate facts regarding both his parentage and birth place is critical. He’s put out 2 forgeries, Abercrombie has said they don’t have a BC in Hawaii for him, the Hawaii Democratic Party refused to certify his Constitutional eligibility, and 3 years after he was elected we STILL have not even the most basic documentation of who this guy even is.

Do you have a link for where Obama’s people said the supposed long-form was an abstract? I haven’t heard that before. If that’s what they are claiming, then Loretta Fuddy has some big-time explaining to do, because if they requested a certified copy of the original birth certificate and she made a big to-do about making an exception in Obama’s case to make a photocopy of the original (blah blah blah) - and then Obama released what he called an ABSTRACT, then Fuddy knows that everybody who has called it his “birth certificate” is mistaken, and she is guilty of violating - in a major, major way - the Federal General False Statement Act, which requires a person to correct what they know to be falsehoods that impact issues under the jurisdiction of the federal government. She should be sitting in jail right next to Rod Blagojevich.

Actually, she and her predecessor Chiyome Fukino (and Alvin Onaka and a host of other criminals in Hawaii, DC, Chicago, and all over the country) should be in a worse place than him because he only tried to sell a Senate seat; she aided and abetted in the stealing of the White House and every position appointed by Obama including 2 Supreme Court “justices”.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 9:42:02 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Kenny Bunk

You are probably very correct.

If Miller, Henig and Schatz opening and sincerely confessed to fraud the MSM would label them as ‘birthers’.

What I meant was that there are those who have participated in the holding up the curtain of lies from the inside. Only a few but we know who some of them are. Or we see the poker like ‘tell’ from Schatz who all but telegraphed via his election document that he KNOWS Obama is not eligible. He obviously risked submitted an invalid document, and perhaps should be charged with fraud because of that, to his Hawaii gang instead of certifying Obama. He knew he could get cover in Hawaii...but if the music stops before Obama is out of office he did not and does not want to be accused of fraud in a federal level.

Him and HDP lawyer who did SADs divorce KNOW the truth.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 9:48:42 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6

I couldn’t agree more. What is happening with Fast and Furious needs to be happening in every agency in Hawaii, in the State Department (Passport Office especially), in the Selective Service Administration, and in the Social Security Administration as well. And somebody at the Honolulu Advertiser should be answering some VERY POINTED questions as well. Somebody should find out why the original paper copies of the Star-Bulletin and Honolulu Advertiser are no longer in the State Archive even though they are still listed as being there. Etc ad nauseum.

What keeps me from being able to let go of this issue is what I have seen first-hand of the lies and law-breaking which have enabled this whole ridiculous mess.

The judges need to be investigated also - for actions that almost seem like they have to be deliberate ethics breaches. Stuff like Judge David Carter hiring a Perkins-Coie clerk in the middle of the eligibility cases, right before doing a complete reversal of himself on those cases. Stuff like Chief Justice Roberts inviting Obama and Biden to the Supreme Court ON THE SAME DAY THAT THE COURT REFUSED TO TAKE UP DONOFRIO’S CASE - and that meeting with Obama and Biden happening when there were several eligibility cases SCOTUS would consider taking up within a week or two after the meeting.

There is so much stench associated with this issue that it would take a long, long time to get to the bottom of it all. But I agree with you that if some of these involved people had the right pressure applied to them, SOMEBODY would believe that Obama would be toast before the Obama machine could assassinate the informer and/or his/her family. Maybe some of them would actually figure out that going public as an informer would be the best way for them to keep safe. That’s reportedly why Monica Lewinsky kept the blue dress. Once her name was public on that issue she became the safest person on earth, whereas before that she may have been in very serious danger.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 9:56:11 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: bluecat6

So does Nancy Pelosi. But it would be easier to get somebody to stand up to Brian Schatz than to stand up to Pelosi.

Schatz is one of the people who was applying heavy pressure to get rid of the Director of the Elections Office, Kevin Cronin. I kinda wonder what Cronin might know...

As I’ve said, I think former DOH Director Neal Palafox could tell Arpaio a LOT. Same with Abercrombie, with a little truth serum. Everybody in the HDOH knows Janice Okubo is the hatchet-woman on Obama’s eligibility. One office supervisor actually laughed with me about that over the phone. WND’s source at the HDOH who told them when the forgery was placed in the file should be deposed by Arpaio...

The list goes on and on and on.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:05 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Butter, how are you?

In regard to the WH calling the document in question an "Abstract," that was done once and over in the blink of an eye. I am sorry I cannot provide a link. However, since the WH put out 3 different versions, that's really all it could be. More telling to me is that they have NEVER shown the document that made the long trip from Hawaii, just their copies of it.

The stamp shown on the released document clearly states "Certified Copy, or ABSTRACT." And since it does not resemble a document of that period, an Abstract it must needs be. In addition, "Certified Copies" are generally marked to show exactly what they are and notarized. I have been in closing meetings when exactly this point has been brought up. An "abstract" has its uses, but the legal question then always remains, "What wasn't abstracted? Is there more on file? For example, are all the owners of a property listed, are mineral rights assigned, etc."

Further, Butter, had it been a "Certified Copy" of an actual document, one can be reasonably sure it would have been advertised as such by the WH. Never done.

if they requested a certified copy of the original birth certificate

There is absolutely no evidence of exactly what the lawyer sent to Hawaii to pick up this document asked for or received. In this day and age, why would a courier make a 6,000 mile trip to pick up an easily transferrable digital document, or not use a courier service to send the original?

One more point: the document released by the WH was a digital document either created from whole cloth or digitally copied from another digitally created document ... which explains the "layering" so dear to Photoshop analysts. OTOH, Certified copies are simply made on copying machines, or photographed, and witnessed.

In order to get the Constitutional issue on the table we have to know who Obama’s father was.

Barack Senior accepted paternity. What the deal was or if there were another paternal unit is, IMHO, quite irrelevant. It is of great prurient interest, since apparently Stanley and this African fellow never seemed to have actually cohabited, neither did he sit fit to mention at any point in the proceedings that he was already a married father.

As far as all acts performed by Obama as President go, think back to the time of the Popes and anti-popes. If an anti-pope named me a bishop, a bishop I would be until a subsequent Pope took the office from me, or my flock threw me in the Tiber. If another anti-pope named a rival to my see, well then war it would be. Suffice it to say the Lesbo Commie and the Puerto Rican Leftie are really SCOTUS Justices. Amazing!

15 posted on 11/03/2011 10:50:56 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this eligibility stuff out?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Why can't Obama show THE birth certificate that he should have in his possession, that his mama gave him?????????
16 posted on 11/03/2011 4:49:43 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: butterdezillion

I believe that gtting a warrant or subpoena may be a lot harded than it sounds. His first problem would be getting a Judge with the cajones to issue it.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 6:37:26 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kenny Bunk

I’m a bit frazzled; lot of irons in the fire right now.

I think for purposes of NBC, the issue of loyalty would depend most on who a child THOUGHT was his father and who raised the child as his own. When we were working on the Nebraska eligibility bill, we figured that if there was an adoption that was sealed so that the candidate didn’t even know that the BC he/she had was not the original BC, the biological parentage was unlikely to have created foreign loyalty in the child. But that would be another issue for the courts, and our thought was that the issue could always be challenged in the courts.

So my interest in who Obama’s father was regards who was LEGALLY acknowledged as his father. If BHO Sr was legally recognized as the father I’m prepared to accept that and don’t care whose sperm did the actual deed. I do think, though, that some of the stuff that has come out, such as the INS document where BHO Sr did not list BHO II as his child, call into question what the actual legal claim was. Not having a genuine BC, the couple not having lived together, etc all calls into question just how much of what we’ve been told is actually true, even something so basic as whether Obama was even CALLED “Obama” for most of his life - whether Obama Sr really DID claim parentage, legally.

The fact that every government agency that has claimed to have records on Obama has somehow engaged in fraud or covered up fraud makes it impossible to know what the true facts are. That’s why the matters of fact have to be resolved as well as the matters of law. It’s unconscionable that the courts refuse to do either.


18 posted on 11/03/2011 7:43:29 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Venturer

Which tells us right there that Obama’s handlers have taken the entire system hostage. Those who want to believe it can’t happen here need to wake up. Seriously wake up.


19 posted on 11/03/2011 7:45:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Leo Carpathian
Why can't Obama show THE birth certificate that he should have in his possession, that his mama gave him?????????

The Dog Ate It? Left it in the convertible and it rained? Left it in other suit? Accidentally thrown out... shredded ...used as kindling at a luau? Mailed back to Sears by mistake ? The Dog Ate It? Grandma got senile and lost it? Raila Odinga burned it? Lost his wallet? It was in the sock drawer in Indonesia?

No really Leo, the dog ate it.

20 posted on 11/03/2011 7:52:42 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure this eligibility stuff out?)
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