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X-rated Tolkien: it's not for the kiddies
The Sunday Times ^ | September 24, 2006 | Maurice Chittenden

Posted on 09/24/2006 4:02:42 AM PDT by MadIvan

A DARKNESS is once again descending on JRR Tolkien’s fabled land of Middle-earth. An unfinished work completed by the writer’s son is such a departure from the world of hobbits that it may merit an X-certificate.

The manuscript for The Children of Hurin, to be published next spring, contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths. Any film version is likely to have restricted audiences because of the subject matter.

Christopher Tolkien has spent the past 30 years working on the epic tale that his father began in 1918 while on leave from the army. JRR, who was recovering from trench fever contracted during the battle of the Somme, later abandoned the work.

Its publication 90 years on follows the success of The Lord of the Rings, which has sold more than 50m copies and was adapted into a trilogy of Oscar-winning films.

The “new” work does not include characters such as Arwen, played by Liv Tyler in the movies directed by Peter Jackson, and Legolas, played by Orlando Bloom.

It is much darker and is based on the Kalevala, an epic poem from Finland. Tolkien, who died at the age of 81 in 1973, took the tale and weaved his own magical story around it.

The Children of Hurin will tell the story of the family of an elf warrior taken prisoner by Morgoth, the first Dark Lord, held responsible for torturing elves and producing the first orcs, a race of evil goblins.

Hurin, the elf warrior, is given powers by Morgoth to foresee what will happen to his children. “Death you may yet crave from me as a boon,” Morgoth tells him.

One son, Turin, is manoeuvred into having sex with his sister Nienor and becomes a carrier of doom, triggering the death of everyone close to him.

One Tolkien expert, William Ferguson, said this weekend: “Turin makes folks like Othello and Hamlet and Oedipus look like lucky devils.”

A dragon, slain by Turin, causes Nienor to realise that they have committed incest. By then she is carrying his unborn child and commits suicide by throwing herself into a ravine.

Turin finally kills himself with his talking sword. “I will drink thy blood gladly,” says its black blade.

Tolkien touched briefly on the story in The Silmarillion, a compendium of Middle-earth history: “And when all was done, the elves sang a lament for the Children of Hurin.”

His son revisited the story in a chapter of his father’s Unfinished Tales in 1980, but this will be the first time it has been told in detail in one volume.

Christopher Tolkien said this weekend he believed there was a strong case for completing his father’s long version of the legend, “if this could be done without distortion or invention”.

Tolkien experts welcomed its forthcoming publication. Dorothy Heydt, a writer of fantasy and science fiction, said: “Turin had more grief in his life than anybody ought to. The story is based on a Finnish folk tale and is full of incest and suicide and stuff.”

Adam Tolkien, son of Christopher, said: “The book will be the equivalent of a director’s cut of a DVD, except in this case the director is deceased.

“It is a very educated work. My father has been working on these stories for 30 years. What has already been published is a very condensed version of the story.

“The Silmarillion gives a history of Middle-earth mythology. To give you an idea of the scale, the whole story of The Lord of the Rings takes up [only] 15 pages in The Silmarillion.”

Christopher Tolkien is now 81 and The Children of Hurin, which will be published by HarperCollins in Britain, may be the last “new” book to be issued under the JRR Tolkien name.

Writers’ literary estates lose their entitlement to copyright income 70 years after their death.

Next week sees the publication of a sequel to Peter Pan, commissioned by the estate of JM Barrie to raise money for Great Ormond Street hospital before the copyright expires in 2007.

Nicolette Jones, author and children’s books reviewer for The Sunday Times, said: “There is a lot of mileage in reworking books. The Ian Fleming estate asked Charlie Higson to write books about the young Bond, William Horwood wrote sequels to The Wind in the Willows and there have been Winnie the Pooh spin-offs.

“Given the controversy over whether JK Rowling will bump off Harry Potter, where will that leave a sequel? Somebody, some day is going to try to pick up the story again.”


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If it's a dark morality tale, all right then.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 09/24/2006 4:02:43 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 09/24/2006 4:03:04 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

The movies and books seemed dark enough already.


3 posted on 09/24/2006 4:07:30 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Microevolution is real; Macroevolution is not real.)
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To: MadIvan
Welcome back, Ivan! It is good to see you again.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 4:08:20 AM PDT by bd476
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To: MadIvan
The story is based on a Finnish folk tale and is full of incest and suicide and stuff.”

Well hey, as long as it has stuff in it, okay. 8^)

5 posted on 09/24/2006 4:11:39 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: MadIvan
"The manuscript for The Children of Hurin, to be published next spring, contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths. Any film version is likely to have restricted audiences because of the subject matter.

Well, the Silmarillion by old JRR himself had all THAT. And except for the incest part, so did LOTR.

6 posted on 09/24/2006 4:16:06 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: MadIvan
The story is based on a Finnish folk tale and is full of incest and suicide and stuff.”

Well, then. There's stuff.

That will make it all worthwhile.

7 posted on 09/24/2006 4:20:06 AM PDT by woofer (It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.)
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FR Hobbit Hole Pingie Thingie


8 posted on 09/24/2006 4:23:03 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (129 days (counting up))
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To: Wonder Warthog
Well, the Silmarillion by old JRR himself had all THAT.

This is The Silmarillion. One of the books of the Silmarillion is titled, "The Children of Hurin," and is about Turin Turambar and his missing sister and mother, Turin's quest to find them and his run-ins with the dragon who bewitched all of them.

9 posted on 09/24/2006 4:24:14 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: MadIvan
I don't know if my brain can take getting deeper into the story...

But, I will do so anyway. My guess is that it won't hold up to JRR.

Good to see you again, Ivan. Stay around, I appreciate your perspective.

10 posted on 09/24/2006 4:24:41 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: MadIvan
That's no worse than Celtic folk tales had, to wit:

Queen maeve and the cattle raid of cooley,The tale of deidre of the sorrows,The legend of Cu Chulainn etc.

CC

11 posted on 09/24/2006 4:26:38 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative ("Minutum Cantorum, Minutum Baloram, Minutum Carboratum Descendam Pantorum")
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To: MadIvan
...contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths...

I hope we don't want to give every book that contains this material an X.

12 posted on 09/24/2006 4:31:51 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: MadIvan

Okay... I watched a mini-series about King Arthur, where he had unknowingly had sex with his sister and that is where Modred came from. So...the plot is not new...it's just being repackaged in a different form.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 4:41:38 AM PDT by carton253 (Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
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To: MadIvan
The manuscript for The Children of Hurin, to be published next spring, contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths.

So does the Bible.

14 posted on 09/24/2006 4:45:18 AM PDT by rockprof
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To: MadIvan
...contains incest, suicide and a multitude of violent deaths...

So did "The Once & Future King", another excellent fantasy book. I read "The Silmarillion". "The Children of Hurin" should be interesting though I don't recommend it for manic depressives. ;-)
15 posted on 09/24/2006 4:52:10 AM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: MadIvan
I always had suspicions that there was "stuff" going on behind the scenes that JRR was too gentlemanly to mention...

( Good to see you again, Ivan. )

16 posted on 09/24/2006 5:00:23 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: MadIvan

I'd rather have seen a book about the Lord of the Nazgul. He was always the most interesting character in LOR, in my opinion.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 5:35:09 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Mark was here

Sounds like Roman history to me.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 5:36:11 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: cspackler
My guess is that it won't hold up to JRR.

I can imagine the reason JRR abandoned the manuscript is that he didn't believe it held up to his standard
19 posted on 09/24/2006 5:41:52 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: MadIvan
<geek mode>
Actually, Hurin was a Man, not an elf!
</geek mode>
20 posted on 09/24/2006 6:56:33 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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