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Anybody not do the Corporate Church thing?

Posted on 04/17/2011 10:53:51 AM PDT by LouAvul

I grew up at a time where Truth and Scholarship in the pulpit were premium. What happened?

I moved to an area in the Bible Belt. One large church I visited, the preacher (PhD) literally did nothing but show powerpoint images he downloaded from the net. His theme was "Family." On one slide he just commented, "Wow. Just wow." He wasn't looking at the screen. The screen was blank. That was typical for his sermons.

Another congregation we visited, the preacher used powerpoint and just threw a dozen or more scriptures up without any exegesis. He just threw a bunch of verses that related to whatever general theme he announced for the lesson.

Another congregation, the preacher is smart and experienced. That's how I know he's just recycling the same tired lessons and tired themes over and over.

Two Sundays ago we drove a little further to visit someplace we'd never been. The preacher vaguely referenced a Bible passage but never quoted or read from a text. The sermon was just little personal anecdotes about his life.

More and more, my wife and I are just worshipping at home. We sings songs, study the BIBLE , take communion and pray. Until we're ready to start a congregation, it looks like that's what we'll be doing.

I don't know when things changed, but I don't like it.


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1 posted on 04/17/2011 10:53:53 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

If your looking for entertainment, go to the movies.


2 posted on 04/17/2011 10:56:10 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: LouAvul
Another congregation, the preacher is smart and experienced. That's how I know he's just recycling the same tired lessons and tired themes over and over.

So you're not looking for a smart, experienced preacher? I don't understand. Every book in the Bible was written over 1800 years ago. The themes and lessons don't change, only the presentation.

3 posted on 04/17/2011 10:58:38 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (Now showing: Dark Ages II.)
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To: LouAvul

I grew up IFB but stopped going to church after moving to the Bible Belts and found there is no way they can keep their pants up without pulling it a little tighter in the light of day and for their constant “I’m better than you” type of Christianity.

Yawn...

Got better things to do than hang out with people who make and pass judgment on the rest of sinners.

Now I just worship in private and willingly discuss Christ’s gift whenever someone asks.


4 posted on 04/17/2011 11:00:54 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: LouAvul

While I share some of your experiences, my wife and found a church/pastor that preaches the gospel, and relates it to our lives. And we’re in the “Bible belt” so my advice is to keep looking, you’ll find a church home.


5 posted on 04/17/2011 11:04:23 AM PDT by FLCowboy, (And people thought Jimmy Carter was our worst president........)
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To: LouAvul

My friend, let me introduce you to John Piper at www.desiringgod.org

He is one of the best today. You can download his sermons anytime. He is currently preaching through the Gospel of John. He is exhaustively expositional.

You might also check out Mark Driscoll, John MacArthur, Alister Begg, Mark Dever, Cj Mahaney and many others. Biblical preaching is hard to find in the post-modern pulpit but there are some good ones out there.


6 posted on 04/17/2011 11:11:01 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: LouAvul

My friend, let me introduce you to John Piper at www.desiringgod.org

He is one of the best today. You can download his sermons anytime. He is currently preaching through the Gospel of John. He is exhaustively expositional.

You might also check out Mark Driscoll, John MacArthur, Alister Begg, Mark Dever, Cj Mahaney and many others. Biblical preaching is hard to find in the post-modern pulpit but there are some good ones out there.


7 posted on 04/17/2011 11:11:08 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: LouAvul

What you’re doing is basically the way first century house churches worked.


8 posted on 04/17/2011 11:13:08 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Pan_Yan
I don't understand

Clearly. I expect that, when a man is paid to research, prepare and present lessons from the Bible, that he actually research, prepare and present lessons from the Bible. If he's just throwing something out there that he threw together, he's not doing his job.

9 posted on 04/17/2011 11:21:32 AM PDT by LouAvul
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I think you missed the point Ray - Lou ISN”T looking for entertainment - he’s looking for a real preacher. I agree with him - most seem to be telling folks how they should be happy, accept their lives, not try to be better. It is total entertainment value in many churches.


10 posted on 04/17/2011 11:21:49 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA ("Elections have consequences...." Barry O. Thank you Scott Walker and WI Republicans!!)
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To: Raycpa

I’m looking for edification. Entertainment is what we’ve got: a sesame street oriented church culture that seeks to entertain, not enlighten.


11 posted on 04/17/2011 11:22:57 AM PDT by LouAvul
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To: sola gracia
Celebrity preachers are nice; but LouAvul needs to connect with believers in his own area. It might be difficult if he lives in a rural area and there's few nearby options; but nevertheless, wherever he is, he can find a decent church.
12 posted on 04/17/2011 11:23:10 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: LouAvul
Moving into an area and finding a new church is like trying to find a new radio station. Little chance that you will find the right one quickly and you may have to cycle through the dial several times, it takes time.

Just because visiting a particular church did nothing for you on a particular Sunday may mean your particular needs are different from those of the congregation. You also can't rule out bad timing; you happened to visit on a day when the pastor had been dealing with a emergency and was unable to properly prepare.

When my wife and I moved down to Louisiana from Ohio, we spent six months trying to find one and we were living in a small community. When we moved from Louisiana to Rhode Island, we had to go through the same process all over again but this time took longer since we were in an area with many more churches to select from.

Be patient and you'll find one.

13 posted on 04/17/2011 11:31:38 AM PDT by fso301
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To: LouAvul

I am sorry about the experiences you are having. I hope you find a way to connect with like minded believers somehow.


14 posted on 04/17/2011 11:37:08 AM PDT by freemama
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To: Thane_Banquo

The operative word there is “basically”.


15 posted on 04/17/2011 11:42:43 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: LouAvul

“As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord” by way of the “simple church” “organic church” or “house church”. Google it - it’s not weird - it’s biblical. Then get yourself a copy of Pagan Christianity by George Barna and Frank Viola - it might just change the way you r think about the institutionalized church. I believe in the Acts church - house to house.


16 posted on 04/17/2011 11:53:09 AM PDT by kings9111
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To: LouAvul

My wife and I belong to a small fellowship in Lafayette, Tennessee but live in Myrtle Beach, SC. We worship primarily in our home and outreach in the community as an extension of our home church, which still gets our financial support. We also believe that most mainstream churches are out of touch with the basic precepts of the gospel message and generally stay away from them.


17 posted on 04/17/2011 12:05:00 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: LouAvul

Lou, I suggest you try to find a church where they use a lectionary and preach thru the entire bible. The lectionary is an important discipline that makes sure that the minister does not just recycle his favourite sermons on “the family” etc.

The trick is to find a church that uses a lectionary and is also biblically faithful.

(the mainline churches use a lectionary that skips scripture they don’t like eg Romans 1:26-27)

The churches I attend use a lectionary based on the book of Common Prayer.


18 posted on 04/17/2011 12:08:08 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Arrest, Intern, Deport !)
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To: LouAvul
I understand your situation completely. We have slowly been moving away from organized “religion”. The institutionalized churches of today have strayed far from the pure gospel. I would defy anyone to name a mainstream denomination today that isn’t drifting toward the one world church of tomorrow.

Small groups of dedicated followers of Christ are the way to go imho.

19 posted on 04/17/2011 12:25:29 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: LouAvul

we do similar to you.

one of the absolute best blessings we’ve encountered/benefited from are Old Testament Bible Study recordings...taught by Dennis Prager...verse by verse.


20 posted on 04/17/2011 12:35:42 PM PDT by mreerm
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