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Jordan Peterson on Catholicism: ‘That’s as sane as people can get’
LifeSiteNews ^ | May 27, 2019 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

May 27, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) — Speaking with one of the best-known conservative Jews, Dennis Prager, at the PragerU summit last week, world-famous psychologist Jordan Peterson spoke of God and his views of faith. After speaking about his dislike for the question ‘Do you believe in God?’ Peterson said, “I think that Catholicism — that's as sane as people can get.”

Peterson has often been asked about his faith, if he believes in God, and he said the question has always troubled him. He promised a podcast on the matter since he has given his dislike for the question much thought.

He explained, “Who would have the audacity to claim that they believed in God if they examined the way they lived? Who would dare say that?”

“To believe, in a Christian sense,” he added, “means that you live it out fully and that's an that's an unbearable task in some sense.”

Then in one long drawn-out, rapid-fire thought, the type that has enthralled his millions of fans, he laid out extemporaneously the vision of a believer in God:

“To be able to accept the structure of existence, the suffering that goes along with it and the disappointment and the betrayal, and to nonetheless act properly; to aim at the good with all your heart; to dispense with the malevolence and your desire for destruction and revenge and all of that; and to face things courageously and to tell the truth to speak the truth and to act it out, that's what it means to believe -- that's what it means -- it doesn't mean to state it, it means to act it out. And, unless you act it out you should be very careful about claiming it. And so, I've never been comfortable saying anything other than I try to act as if God exists because God only knows what you'd be if you truly believed.”

See the full exchange of Peterson and Prager here.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Religion; Science; Society
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Class, discuss.
1 posted on 05/29/2019 12:37:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well, he’s not a Christian, for he doesn’t claim to be. He also exposes ignorance of the gospel message as well as the message of acts and the Epistles. He’s impressive when he understands the subject at hand, though.


2 posted on 05/29/2019 12:50:24 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Mrs. Don-o

almost Kierkegaardian in that statement....and there’s much merit to be found in that line of reasoning


3 posted on 05/29/2019 12:53:22 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Class, discuss.

Okay, I'll discuss. Would you have posted this if Jordan Peterson had said that Shintoism is "as sane as people can get?" And does it really matter what Jordan Peterson thinks?

4 posted on 05/29/2019 12:53:52 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Poor boy doesn’t understand the Gospel. Perhaps he should try reading it sometime.


5 posted on 05/29/2019 12:55:57 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

As a Christian I absolutely LOVE the question. Just saying he hates the question tells me a lot about him.


6 posted on 05/29/2019 12:58:43 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Prov 24: Do not fret because of evildoers. Do not associate with those given to change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

and to act it out, that’s what it means to believe — that’s what it means — it doesn’t mean to state it, it means to act it out.
= = =

He is almost saying faith without works is dead.

But he emphasizes works. And they will say Lord, Lord, we did ... so and so in your name ...

Meanwhile, I am tickled that he talks about God and the Bible, which to me, is evidence that they are real and powerful. Else why would the world’s smartest man even consider them, much less discuss them?


7 posted on 05/29/2019 12:59:11 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He and Leonard Cohen and Charles Krauthammer went to the same University... and all of them came away with insights that are one off from the world... but ‘one off’ in a wonderful way...


8 posted on 05/29/2019 1:04:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (STOP Corrupt "intelligece' jerks from trading information to the press for 'favors' for themselves.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I like what he is essentially saying. Saying what you believe is meaningless compared to living what you believe. I can get behind that.


9 posted on 05/29/2019 1:08:57 PM PDT by BBQToadRibs
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To: Mrs. Don-o

His opinion about spiritual things is as valid as anyone else’s.

And I’m sure there are a lot who would disagree.

So who’s right?


10 posted on 05/29/2019 1:12:48 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: kosciusko51
Jordan Peterson has lots of fans as well as detractors here. I thought FReepers in general--- not just religious opinionistas--- would find it interesting: which is why I didn't put it in the Religion Forum..

The man is not, as far as he's ever said, a believer. What he claims to admire, here, "Catholicism," is quite a fantastically detailed and mammoth 2,000 year old "thing" which has a lot of concrete "thinginess" about it --- by which I mean, it is not something easily conformable to anyone's transient picks and preferences. It has its own definite content and character.

It's not easy to redefine, slip out of, or mold to preference. It's not particularly pliable.

It's not like, say, Buddhism, which is almost as old but not nearly as refractory.

As the subtle old joke has it,

"Christianity and Buddhism are a lot alike. Especially Buddhism."

11 posted on 05/29/2019 1:17:45 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: DungeonMaster

His humility, for one.


12 posted on 05/29/2019 1:34:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: malach

The current pope is on a steep learning curve.


15 posted on 05/29/2019 1:40:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He doesn’t practice Gods teaching of let your “yes be yes” and “no be no”. A Christian would answer YES to the question of believing in God.


16 posted on 05/29/2019 1:52:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (AOC is the Democrat prophecy come true : "A bartender will lead them".)
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To: BipolarBob
He is not a Christian. He does not claim to be.

What we see here, I think, is -- like Israel --- one of those who wrestles with God.

He's a work in progress.

17 posted on 05/29/2019 2:05:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is better to be slapped with the Truth than to be kissed with a Lie.")
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To: metmom
So who’s right?

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes to the Father but through me." - Jesus.

Jesus is right!! Jesus is a stumbling block to works oriented people like Peterson.

18 posted on 05/29/2019 2:12:44 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Very nice. Undoubtedly, he’s attracted to Catholicism’s intellectual and scientific tradition.


19 posted on 05/29/2019 2:13:04 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: metmom

Who’s right?

If there is a creator who is omniscient and omnipotent and love and that creator gave his creatures freedom and those creatures abused it and then the creator came down to be a creature and show them how to live and die starting with the Old Testament and gave his friends a mandate to love as he loved and gave them a New Testament to fulfill the Old and a church with power to teach infallibly and a promise that that Church would last until the end of time sounds like the Catholic Church to me and Peterson is right. They cannot all or both be right.


20 posted on 05/29/2019 2:43:22 PM PDT by amihow
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