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Fascism: a warning from Madeleine Albright
Vox ^ | 2/14/19 | Sean LLing

Posted on 07/06/2020 3:35:37 AM PDT by EBH

I think what differentiates fascism from other ideological movements is the use of violence and anger to achieve political ends. What you almost always see in fascist regimes is propaganda being used to set people against each other without any potential solutions to any of the problems.

Fascism is always, in the end, about stirring people up and giving them someone to hate....

... I don’t call him a fascist. He’s certainly anti-democratic, and I say so in the book, but I don’t call him a fascist because he isn’t violent. If he ends up declaring an emergency at the border over immigration, then I might change my position. There’s a long history of fascists using “emergencies” to create fear and conflict, so that’s a potential red line. If Trump does that, then he really is a bully with an army...

...I’ll tell you where the line gets crossed. If Trump actually uses the military to deploy or incite violence, that’s when all bets are off. I’m very careful about who I call a fascist because I really do believe this is where the line is....

...“I’m an optimist who worries a lot.” My worry is the reason I wrote the book. And to be honest, I was going to write this book no matter who got elected because I could see all these divisions and problems long before Trump took office.

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: albright; fascism; madeleinealbright; seanling; seanlling; violence; vox
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An interview a little over a 1.5 years old. I wonder what she thinks today? And more interesting this interview may, MAY, explain President Trump's delegation to the State Governor's responsibility to control the situations in their own backyards.

It really is so incredible to read this interview from what seems like 100 years ago, but to actually look at events today and consider the "bully with an army," will be a President other than Trump. And it isn't just about the next 4 years...it is about the next 50 years.

Albright's statement that the book would be written no matter who got elected is very telling. Lling keeps trying to make this about Trump, but Albright lightly makes this about the culture, the divisions, the identity politics. A manipulation now on full display these last few months.

It is frightening they don't see themselves in the fascist mirror. And I truly wonder what she would say today. Everywhere this interview 'worries' Trump will and would go...he has diverted from that path.

1 posted on 07/06/2020 3:35:37 AM PDT by EBH
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If Trump actually uses the military to deploy or incite violence

The real fascists are planning on complete mayhem between now and the November election.

They also know that President Trump can invoke the Insurrection Act to fight them, and use the military.

They fear that, so they are launching pre-emptive attacks in the media.

2 posted on 07/06/2020 3:39:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: EBH

It’s OK for Blacks to be racist.
It’s OK for the Left to use violence.

They’re the Good Guys, so anything goes.

But White people can’t get out of bed without sending a “dog whistle” of racism and impending violence.


3 posted on 07/06/2020 3:50:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: EBH

I don’t think she even knows that she’s talking about the people arrayed against Trump: her own Party!


4 posted on 07/06/2020 3:51:22 AM PDT by jeffc (I'm a Patriot, and the media are our enemy)
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To: SkyPilot

This is an old article/interview.

I just found her comments insightful...but quite reversed. Instigation without real problem solving etc. The violence being used by marxist/fascist left, etc.

She doesn’t see Trump as a fascist at all. She see’s a line in the sand that he hasn’t crossed. Like I noted in the last excerpted line from the interview I posted, it wouldn’t matter who was elected as her warning is cultural.

The media is trying to say President Trump is inciting things with his tweets...and he’s tweeted some really dumb things lately, but they just tweets. The violence is coming from the real fascists and destruction happening. It isn’t coming from our own military or government.


5 posted on 07/06/2020 3:53:39 AM PDT by EBH
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I know. When I read the article yesterday that was shared with me, my jaw dropped. I was very much like you...

Do they even hear themselves and see themselves? What blindness is set upon their minds that they cannot discern left from right?


6 posted on 07/06/2020 3:56:04 AM PDT by EBH
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The do-gooders see that ANTIFA and BLM are burning American cities and occasionally shooting people. But, you know, to make an omelette you must scramble some eggs. On the other hand, Trump had a Tweet a while ago that was rude, so he’s worse than Hitler.

Albright seems to show some decent sense. The do-gooders ... not so much.


7 posted on 07/06/2020 3:57:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: EBH
If Trump does that (protects the border) then he really is a bully with an army...

On May 12, 1996, Madeleine Albright (then U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations) appeared on a 60 Minutes segment in which Lesley Stahl asked her "We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, are is the price worth it?" and Albright replied "I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it."

8 posted on 07/06/2020 4:00:05 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Wow...she unwittingly describes ANTIFA and BLM to a tee.


9 posted on 07/06/2020 4:01:17 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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Described by the women of Kosovo as either “a witch” or “a gypsy cleaning lady”. This female thing that aided in the murder of thousands of civilians.


10 posted on 07/06/2020 4:05:05 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“MAD” Albright though an intellectual and former diplomat placed the USA into many dangerous Foreign Policy blunders of which the North Korean, 5 way party talks for nuclear non-proliferation - failed miserably.

She also blundered terribly in the Middle East with regards to the Arabs and Israelis so...

DON’T TAKE ANY ADVICE FROM THIS SEASONED AND HALF-BAKED STATE DEPARTMENT LACKEY.


11 posted on 07/06/2020 4:06:09 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.i)
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Not taking advice other than noting her discussion from an interview 1.5 years ago and how it resounds against today’s events.

A culture ripe for the rise of fascism.

I do tend to like the book Liberal Fascism by Goldberg much better to explain what we’re seeing today.


12 posted on 07/06/2020 4:10:14 AM PDT by EBH
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To: Crim

Pretty incredible eh?

It is a stunning projection.


13 posted on 07/06/2020 4:11:15 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

The cleaning lady is still sweeping democRat dirt under the rug.


14 posted on 07/06/2020 4:13:25 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (China kills over 500,000 and the sheeple sleep. Cops kill one person, and cities burn.)
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If he ends up declaring an emergency at the border over immigration, then I might change my position.

Remember the Clintonian ‘triangulation’ of having someone on their team take vocal public opposition to something they were trying to get done, then (after a suitable time) “come around” to the Clinton way? It was all a charade.

Not-so-bright may have tipped the leftist playbook here, “If he ends up declaring an emergency at the border over immigration, then I might change my position.”

Note she doesn’t say if her side forces the issue whether she’ll still blame Trump...

15 posted on 07/06/2020 4:14:53 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: EBH

A message from the cleaning woman.


16 posted on 07/06/2020 4:15:11 AM PDT by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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Not-so-bright may have tipped the leftist playbook here, “If he ends up declaring an emergency at the border over immigration, then I might change my position.”

Well we have an emergency at the border. It's called Covid-19.

n the last week of June, coronavirus deaths averaged more than 2,000 a day in Latin America and the Caribbean -- half of all recorded deaths worldwide, according to a CNN tally of WHO data. Most forecasts suggest the picture will get much grimmer -- with nearly 440,000 deaths expected across the region by October, according to the University of Washington.

We're seeing outbreak on the border states due to it being uncontrolled from Latin America. Just as the NY rich fled NY ...we're seeing people who are fleeing Latin America and Mexico. There's the emergency.

17 posted on 07/06/2020 4:37:20 AM PDT by EBH
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To: SkyPilot

“They also know that President Trump can invoke the Insurrection Act to fight them, and use the military.”

This could present a problem as many of the high ranking officers are questionable as we have seen recently. Upon reelection Trump must clean the ranks of Obama officers.


18 posted on 07/06/2020 4:37:21 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE)
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“then I might change my position.“

Madeline, we are hanging on every word you say, and will anxiously await your changed position if anything happens that Trump just can’t handle.


19 posted on 07/06/2020 4:42:42 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: EBH

Breaking News: Madeleine Albright is alive.


20 posted on 07/06/2020 5:19:47 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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