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Sen. Barrasso on Fox: It's not the Congress that elects the President, it is the American people
twitter ^ | Feb 6 | Chad Pergram

Posted on 02/06/2022 7:25:50 AM PST by RandFan

@ChadPergram

Barrasso on Fox: I voted to certify the election and I think Mike Pence did his constitutional duty that day. It's not the Congress that elects the President, it is the American people.

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Is he right, Freepers?

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1 posted on 02/06/2022 7:25:50 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

the states actually


2 posted on 02/06/2022 7:27:01 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: joshua c

Give it a rest.


3 posted on 02/06/2022 7:27:50 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: RandFan

It is neither.

We do not have a popular vote, so it isn’t “the people.”

Congress has no say in the matter except to accept or reject the ELECTORS chosen by the vote of the people in each state.

Technically, the electors elect the president. Some states have “faithless elector” laws saying that the electors must vote for the choice of the people in the election, but not all. Originally, the electors were entirely on their own.


4 posted on 02/06/2022 7:28:46 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: LS

Another American politician who has perhaps been in the same room as a text of the Constitution but has never bothered to read it.


5 posted on 02/06/2022 7:33:28 AM PST by Reily
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To: RandFan

If only Congress would do its job, which is to legislate, the courts could be held in check. Instead, Congre$$ has failed us. We have failed us.


6 posted on 02/06/2022 7:34:07 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: RandFan
Apparently, it is a group headed by the [REDACTED] that appoints the President.

They coordinate the "elections" which are used to communicate their choice to the American people.

I think I read that in the Constitution somewhere...

7 posted on 02/06/2022 7:35:02 AM PST by flamberge (Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear)
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To: LS

The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?

If not to reject fraudulent elections than why do those powers exist?


8 posted on 02/06/2022 7:35:16 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: RandFan
It was within Pence’s authority to send the results back for audit. If you study the drafting process of the Constitution, it's obvious that the founding fathers were highly skeptical of governmental power and it’s potential corruption and were obsessed with checks and balances. They did not have to have the outgoing VP formally receive and certify the votes. They could have just had the election certified via some other method. Pretty obvious they wanted the certification of the election by the outgoing VP as a final check and balance against exactly what happened in November 2020.
9 posted on 02/06/2022 7:36:22 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: RandFan

According to Ammendment 12, it’s the electors that sign and certify counts.

VP opens certificates and they are counted. If there is a majority, that person is Prez.


10 posted on 02/06/2022 7:36:29 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Reily

He’s routinely in the squad that shows up whenever McConnell, Thune, Cornyn, Graham, etc, get in front of some microphones and cameras.

Barasso, like so many others in the Senate, is the face and definition of The Swamp.

If anything, the folks in Wyoming have some thinking to do about putting Barasso and Cheney out of work.


11 posted on 02/06/2022 7:38:55 AM PST by qaz123
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To: RandFan

It’s the states that have the power of the vote. That is the whole popes of the electoral college. It is setup so the most populated states do not have a monopoly on Presidential elections.


12 posted on 02/06/2022 7:40:25 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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To: RandFan

Congress has oversight.


13 posted on 02/06/2022 7:41:00 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: RandFan

Unless terms are defined this turns into a pissing contest over the meaning of “the people”.


14 posted on 02/06/2022 7:41:01 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Renfrew

If the states with “problems” had sent competing slates of electors Pence, etc. would have had precedent to stand on. Without that that those states were saying ‘yeah it’s a smelly single slate but we still say it’s ok’. Effectively they were saying they were fine with fraud and why not we’ve let it go on in those areas for decades because of fear of the race card. Now it cost us!


15 posted on 02/06/2022 7:42:22 AM PST by Reily
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To: Renfrew

Because, those guys, coming from where they did, having just gone through a war, with a desire for freedom, NEVER thought that the government they created would ever be so incredibly and inexplicably corrupt.

They actually thought that our elected officials would stately true to the citizen-statesman ideal and not subvert the country to get rich and do the bidding of their donors, the Chamber of Commerce, the Kochs, Wall St and China.


16 posted on 02/06/2022 7:43:55 AM PST by qaz123
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To: RandFan

No, it is the electors selected by the sovereign states that elect the president.


17 posted on 02/06/2022 7:44:02 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: RandFan

Discussing the notion of who elects the POTUS is a magicians trick to hide the third rail of truth about what VP Pence could or could not do in regards to the election. The question of whether Congress or the people elect the President is a waste of calories. The real question to focus on is: Did the VP have authority to pause the final electoral count until the question of voting irregularities in certain states was resolved? I believe he did! Since this occurred, the courts have ruled that the practice of unchecked mail in voting was unconstitutional.


18 posted on 02/06/2022 7:44:50 AM PST by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: RandFan
Did Barrasso mention the unconstitutionality of Pennsylvania's more than 2 million unsolicited write-in ballots?

Does he care?

Didn't think so.

19 posted on 02/06/2022 7:45:00 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Renfrew
The question is why did the Founders insist that Congress and the VP certify the election results?

They didn't. Instead, they directed that the electors themselves should sign and certify their ballots and deliver them sealed to Congress. Here are the roles the Founders specified for Congress and the VP:

VP: As President of the Senate, the VP is to count the electoral votes delivered to him, in the presence of both houses of Congress.

House and Senate: Are to listen to the count read by the vice-president.

That's it. There is nothing in the Constitution about the VP or Congress certifying anything. They are there to read and listen to what the electoral voters tell them.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-12/
20 posted on 02/06/2022 7:47:53 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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