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To: Boogieman

Ogygia was an ancient name for Egypt. Butler claimed that the Odyssey uses various sites on Sicily, and that it was written by a woman. I never have liked the Odyssey, and haven’t much cared for the Iliad either, but just from the translations I’ve had access to over the years, it’s clear they weren’t written by the same author (or authors). The Odyssey comes off as an ancient romance novel.

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6 posted on 12/27/2022 1:47:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I always thought it was Malta. Or thereabouts.


8 posted on 12/27/2022 1:52:07 PM PST by Buttons12 ( Do you not think an Angel rides in the Whirlwind and directs this Storm?)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Ogygia was an ancient name for Egypt.”

But Egypt is not an island, and Ulysses visits Crete early on in his travels, which is right next to Egypt. So it makes no sense for him to get stranded on Ogygia in the mid-point of his journey after he left the area of Egypt heading west/northwest before being blown off course.

“The Odyssey comes off as an ancient romance novel.”

There’s a bit of that but it seems to me that there are veiled references to real places in it, but that the more “fantastic” places are ones that Greek sailors may have heard about, but probably never visited themselves.


10 posted on 12/27/2022 2:20:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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Timaeus by Plato
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html

Critias by Plato
Translated by Benjamin Jowett
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html

Key to Map of Possible Route of Odysseus
Graphic: Tim Severin, The Ulysses Voyage: sea search for the Odyssey (London 1987).
Text: adapted from Erich Lessing, The Voyages of Ulysses (Vienna 1965) and other sources
https://pages.uoregon.edu/nateich/worldlit/mapkey.html


12 posted on 12/27/2022 2:59:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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