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raise the mound, maybe not as high as it was in 1968, but higher than now
1 posted on 04/24/2024 3:06:03 PM PDT by sopo
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They’ve always been a lot of injuries.

Now they pay so much they care about it.


2 posted on 04/24/2024 3:07:59 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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All I can say is How about those Tigers!
Tied for second place with KC and the they have a 3 game series starting tomorrow.👍


5 posted on 04/24/2024 3:13:59 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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Technique...a lot of arm throwers these days versus the Seaver’s of yesteryear who really used their legs.


7 posted on 04/24/2024 3:19:11 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: sopo

Pitch clock?


9 posted on 04/24/2024 3:22:06 PM PDT by dblshot
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Tommy John surgery has become routine for pitchers, and training methods have seemingly reached the human limits. Even veteran pitchers can improve their fastballs by several mph with latest techniques. Plenty of players willing to risk it, given the millions an even average pitcher can expect.


10 posted on 04/24/2024 3:22:15 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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“Spahn and Sain and pray for rain” - in 1948 Warren Spahn pitched 17 complete games, and Johnny Sain led the league with 28 complete games!

If I recall correctly, only a handful of pitchers have had any complete games at all up to this point in the season.


14 posted on 04/24/2024 3:27:33 PM PDT by Stosh
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Training for velocity has led muscle strength to out run the strength of tendons and ligaments to support them. That’s why so many are now needing Tommy John surgery, to repair torn up ligaments.


16 posted on 04/24/2024 3:29:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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What about kids from the time of Little League just about pitching their arms out by the time they get out of college?


22 posted on 04/24/2024 3:55:02 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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Spencer Strider suffered a debilitating mustache injury. 12 months off should be enough time for him to reassess that calamitous decision.
Him aside, the amount of torque these cats are generating is well beyond what the human body is meant to create.
Ranger Suarez pitched a complete game two starts ago. There had been roughly 200 games played at that point, and it was only the SECOND complete game thus far.
When I was a youngster, a starter as part of a four-man rotation, 20 % of games would be CGs.
I can’t think of anything else that changed - and contracts? Why wouldn’t you want to get everything you can out of your investment if you know that pitches thrown doesn’t cause injuries?


24 posted on 04/24/2024 4:11:29 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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On a separate note, I am listening to the Red Sox - Indians game. Red Sox First Baseman Bobby Dalbec is batting .029 on the season. He is only in the lineup because the Sox have lost two other first basemen to injury. They have three other players who are below the Mendoza line.

BTW, Bobby D just made a great play at first base.


30 posted on 04/24/2024 4:26:39 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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If they threw at 3/4 speed with some craftier pitches, they would last complete games and have 20-year careers.


34 posted on 04/24/2024 4:50:40 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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A shame is watching Shohei Ohtani wreck his arm. He’s already had Tommy John surgery AND surgery to repair UCL damage in his elbow. Very sad. A classic example of a velocity pitcher who has wrecked his arm for the long haul.


35 posted on 04/24/2024 4:52:42 PM PDT by Fury
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Are they having more injuries now or were there more injuries 25 years ago? Start with what has changed,


51 posted on 04/24/2024 5:47:00 PM PDT by Racketeer
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Back in the 80’s, anyone who threw 90 was a fireballer. Now 90 is a soft tosser.

I think that the velocity that is achieved today is part of it, but also the amount of spin is crazy. Wonder what the injury rate was before they cracked down on grip enhancers - the spider tack added spin, now they have to torque to add spin. I suspect that Tyler Glasnow had it right.


54 posted on 04/24/2024 6:37:24 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: sopo
Gaylord Perry never needed Tommy John surgery.

Just saying.

60 posted on 04/24/2024 7:31:42 PM PDT by Pilsner
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62 posted on 04/24/2024 7:50:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Here’s a possible way to avoid these increasing arm injuries.

1. Move the mound back to the exact center of the infield.
2. Raise the height of the mound back to 1968 standards.

WHY??

1. The pitchers do throw harder as a whole compared to years past. They have developed a “6 innings is a complete game” mentality and throw as hard as possible all of the time. The extra distance they would have to throw will make them try to “pitch” more and not just throw as nearly all of them are doing now. It turns an at-bat back to a game of chess instead of the checkers it has become. The extra height of the mound will be a compensation to the pitchers. It will allow them to throw more breaking pitches and stresses control and finesse. They will have to rely on their fielders more.

2. Batters will have a fraction of a second more time to react BUT they will have to learn to put the ball in play due to the angle of the ball coming in from the higher mound. Too many are waiting to play T-Ball anymore. They want to Homer or walk. They usually whiff instead.

Fans are bored with strikeouts 33% of the time. Put the ball in play with fewer pitches per at-bat, make the fielders work, watch hitters go the other way for hits, bring some small ball back into the game.


65 posted on 04/24/2024 8:06:52 PM PDT by Gort_Klaatu
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Put some more time on the damn pitch clock for starters.
Are we really in such a hurry that pitchers need to blow their arms out to speed the game up a little bit?

One big problem is, too many people who’ve never played the game at that level are setting rules for the MLB. They’re not qualified to know what’s right for the game, or for the players who’s work it is to supply it for us.


67 posted on 04/24/2024 8:08:52 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was off the ping list.)
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Maybe there are more injuries because they are no longer pitching full games, just a few innings.


84 posted on 04/25/2024 7:11:37 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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