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Neocons are the real anti-Americans
FR ^ | May 18 | Me

Posted on 05/18/2024 3:16:25 PM PDT by RandFan

"It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world; so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it; for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat it, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But, in my opinion, it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them."

And who said this:

"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none."


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That's an extract from Washington's farewell address and a quote from Thomas Jefferson.

Neocons who support all these wars in the Middle East and US involvement, alliances, etc. around the globe are the real anti-Americans especially when you read and understand what Washington, Jefferson and others said at the time!

And don't quote the Bible at me (some Freepers) as an excuse to gallivant around the world because the founders never and they were just as religious.

They just believed in minding your own business...

1 posted on 05/18/2024 3:16:25 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: hardspunned; EEGator; jimwatx

ping


2 posted on 05/18/2024 3:17:19 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Absolutely, neocons/establishment Republicans/globalists are as much the enemy as any leftist.


3 posted on 05/18/2024 3:17:42 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

100% AGREE

Many will find an excuse though and on here you see it. Sad.

I honestly think sometimes it’s more about stock positions./

Honestly some Freeper mentioned that and it makes sense. Either that or paid shills?


4 posted on 05/18/2024 3:19:43 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
Sure, nothings has changed in the US from Washington's time.


5 posted on 05/18/2024 3:22:52 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: RandFan

We should only make Alliances that suit OUR interests.


6 posted on 05/18/2024 3:23:48 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: tlozo

He was facing the aggressive, growing Soviet Union. And he defeated it WITHOUT WAR.


7 posted on 05/18/2024 3:25:16 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: tlozo

The founders words were wiser especially if you look at the last 50 or so years of undeclared wars

I mean in hindsight they win the argument!


8 posted on 05/18/2024 3:25:58 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

You have no idea what neocons stood for.

But you’ll make up your own straw men to justify your hatred.


9 posted on 05/18/2024 3:26:58 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: All

Washington’s farewell address at one point was the most reprinted founding document.
nowadays? not so much.


10 posted on 05/18/2024 3:27:14 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: cowboyusa

Iraq was a disaster sadly many have not repented

They never, ever will.


11 posted on 05/18/2024 3:27:24 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: tlozo

That worked during Reagan’s era, but is no longer applicable. Future wars won’t be fought with tanks and massive armies. Those days are over.


12 posted on 05/18/2024 3:28:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Are you invested in the defense industry?

Serious question Chad. Someone promulgated this theory to me and it’s the only thing that make sense sometimes


13 posted on 05/18/2024 3:31:44 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: Kazan
Absolutely, neocons/establishment Republicans/globalists are as much the enemy as any leftist.

That would be the Kremlin's line, as expected from our Russian correspondent.

14 posted on 05/18/2024 3:32:14 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: tlozo

Reagan was right, but notice he wasn’t saying anything about expanding NATO right up to Russia’s borders or about trying to democratize the Middle East.


15 posted on 05/18/2024 3:32:22 PM PDT by x
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To: RandFan
The founders words were wiser especially if you look at the last 50 or so years of undeclared wars

The founders lived in a very different world where isolationism could be practiced. Its delusional now.

Wars where we try to nation build is foolish-Iraq and Afghanistan.

Should we have stayed out of WW2?

Was Reagan wrong to confront the Soviet Union?

16 posted on 05/18/2024 3:32:36 PM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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To: RandFan

Don’t be a neocon, be a social conservative, an economic conservative, and a strong defense conservative.

Be conservative.


17 posted on 05/18/2024 3:33:38 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: RandFan
Are you invested in the defense industry?

No.

18 posted on 05/18/2024 3:34:08 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

So everyone who takes the classical position is a Russian shill?

Makes me laugh this.


19 posted on 05/18/2024 3:35:52 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I agree as our foreign policies can be mistaken for sabotage and has now left America all but dead on the floor.


20 posted on 05/18/2024 3:37:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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