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1 posted on 11/07/2003 6:25:08 AM PST by truthandlife
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Good post, shedding light on a dark chapter in American history.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 6:28:03 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: truthandlife
It seems to me that there is a health exception in the law - deliver the baby.
3 posted on 11/07/2003 6:30:18 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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"...Women who undergo partial birth abortion risk uterine rupture, abruption, amniotic fluid embolus, trauma to the uterus, iatrogenic laceration, secondary hemorrhage and infertility.."

Too bad it's only a risk. What the H-E-double L do these murderers think the child goes thru...?
4 posted on 11/07/2003 6:48:17 AM PST by Roughneck (9 out of 10 Terrorists prefer Democrats, the rest prefer Saddam Hussein)
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INTREP - MURDER, Inc
5 posted on 11/07/2003 7:19:16 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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Too bad that most of the liberal press isn't reporting it this way. All you hear from them is how "there is no exception for when the mother's health is in danger."
7 posted on 11/07/2003 10:43:18 PM PST by squidly
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To: truthandlife; Coleus
Time to pull this thread out of the mothballs.

Gonna be a lot of balogna flying around.

8 posted on 03/29/2004 9:22:17 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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There are only two instances that I know of where an abortion "may" be necessary to save the life of the mother:

1. Tubal pregnancy. Although advances are being made to try to save these babies, they usually are unable to survive past the second trimester because the tube ruptures.

2. Fetal rejection. When the mother's immune system overrides the baby's ability to fight off natural defenses, very similar to an organ transplant rejection. The mother's body sees the infant as an invading foreign body and attempts to destroy it, while other systems attempt to nourish it. Typically, the baby can defend against it. In extremely rare cases, it does not. I personally know only one woman this has happened to; it was terribly debilitating, and she agonized over her decision. Two days before she gave in to pressure to abort, God took the decision from her hands and swept the baby home to Him. She was in her fifth month and her health was failing.

She was urged never to attempt another pregnancy, and, given her emotional and physical suffering, she has chosen not to have children.

13 posted on 03/29/2004 10:17:24 PM PST by TheWriterInTexas (With God's Grace, All Things Are Possible)
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Partial-birth abortion: dispelling the myths

Important facts PING

14 posted on 03/29/2004 10:42:55 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Trial Begins, Opening Statements Given

http://www.lifenews.com/nat410.html

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 29, 2004

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- The first of three separate trials of lawsuits filed by those seeking to overturn the ban on partial-birth abortions began on Monday in New York. An attorney for the National Abortion Federation, a trade group of abortion businesses, said the abortion ban was unconstitutional for a variety of reasons.

Attorney A. Stephen Hut told U.S. District Court Judge Richard Casey that the ban should be declared unconstitutional for many reasons, including its vagueness and that it lacks an exception allowing abortions to protect a woman's health.

"[O]ur evidence will show the court that this act unconstitutionally compromises a woman's right to reproductive choice and it is designed to remove the abortion alternatives," Hut told the court, the Associated Press reports.

Hut said the trial would include descriptions of partial-birth abortions that are "very raw" and "not for the faint of heart."

But one pro-life law firm that has filed a firend-of-the court brief in the cases says that's good news. Pro-life groups have cited the educational aspects of the partial-birth abortion ban as a second reason to put forward the legislation.

"The opportunity to present testimony showing the horrific nature of this procedure is an important ingredient in defending the national ban on partial-birth abortion," said Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice.

NAF insists that partial-birth abortions must remain legal to help women in rare, severe medical cases.

"The law has no exception to protect a woman's health; it prohibits abortions doctors say are safe and medically appropriate. To safeguard women's health, medical decisions must be made by doctors and not by politicians," said Vicki Saporta, president and CEO of the National Abortion Federation.

But many doctors insist that's not the case.

The Physicians' Ad Hoc Coalition for Truth (PHACT) -- a group of over 600 physician-specialists (mostly in obstetrics, perinatology, and related disciplines) -- says partial-birth abortions no only are unnecessary to protect the health of a woman, but actually do more harm than good.

In September, 1996, former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop and other PHACT members wrote members of Congers saying that "partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary to protect a mother's health or her future fertility. On the contrary, this procedure can pose a significant threat to both.”

“We, and many other doctors across the United States, regularly treat women whose unborn children suffer ... serious conditions," the group adds. "Never is the partial-birth procedure medically indicated. Rather, such infants are regularly and safely delivered live, vaginally, with no threat to the mother's health or fertility.”

The Bush administration agrees.

"[T]his violent practice is unnecessary, as well as painful and cruel to the partially-born child," Monica Goodling, a Justice Department spokeswoman said. "A bipartisan majority in Congress reached this conclusion after eight years of testimony from respected medical professionals who stated that partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary."

Regardless of the outcome of the district court trials, the results will likely be appealed to the federal appeals court level. Beyond that, they will almost certainly land at the feet of the nation's high court.

"This is the beginning of a very long legal road that ultimately leads to the Supreme Court of the United States," said

The abortion businesses that belong to Saporta's group are responsible for more than half of all abortions performed in the United States annually. Planned Parenthood is the single largest abortion business.

19 posted on 03/30/2004 2:16:04 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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