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To: cmsgop
Yes, first post.

I am tremendously concerned about this voting issue, and am unprepared to stand by and watch this happen to our great Nation. Like I introduced, I'm a Dem. As such, there may be things that this community and I would disagree upon. I'm really not here to debate those issues, or to have a fight. On other issues we may passionately agree. One example, I hope, is patriotism. I love this Country, the opportunities it provides, and I do not want our elections to be placed at risk due to poor implementations of technology.

My team and many others have been expressing deep concern about these systems for months, without tangible evidence (hosed elections) to point to. Now we have a small handfull that we DO know about, and these have occurred in November and January Due to the fundamental problem of this issue, the lack of proof in most cases (one way or the other), we are now really concerned about how many election problems we DO NOT know about.

Many people, engaged in their partisan alienation toward those across the aisle, try to paint this as a partisan issue. But now that elections are underway, we are seeing multiple cases of what we warned about, and they are affecting both parties.

I come here in peace, and in hope that I can engage people who can look at this, recognize that we ALL stand to lose if this gets out of control, and ask for your help.

6 posted on 01/12/2004 5:12:20 PM PST by GregD
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To: GregD
"I love this Country, the opportunities it provides, and I do not want our elections to be placed at risk due to poor implementations of technology."

Soooo....are you a Zell Miller/Ed Koch Democrat? or a Howie Dean/Al Gore Democrat?

8 posted on 01/12/2004 5:17:31 PM PST by goodnesswins (The year 2004......It's gonna be a great one!)
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To: GregD


Soooo....are you a Zell Miller/Ed Koch Democrat? or a Howie Dean/Al Gore Democrat?
9 posted on 01/12/2004 5:17:49 PM PST by goodnesswins (The year 2004......It's gonna be a great one!)
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To: GregD
I just don't get it. I code in several languages so I know a little about coding in general.

Creating an application to add up a users choices is as basic as a first level computer programming extra credit problem.

The user selects his values, submits them, is given a chance to verify them, and they are recorded on a data base.

At the same time a scantron quality receipt is submitted in triplicate. One for the voter, one for a mutually selected independent master to verify on classic scantron equipment, and the third to be kept by the vote tally folks.

Whats the friggin problem with this?

Why is this so difficult?

The scantron receipts should verify exactly what the vote tally folks have as a total. Computers are black and white, off and on.

If any questions arise, the voters could participate in a sampling. 1000 thousand random voters are selected and anonymously offer up copies of thier barcoded receipts. The vote tally people are asked to produce the results for these 1000 receipts based on a collection of barcodes cast against the data base.

If they don't match...then the investigation begins.
12 posted on 01/12/2004 5:24:30 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: GregD
My team and many others have been expressing deep concern about these systems for months, without tangible evidence (hosed elections) to point to.

Ah yes...I've read your many rants at DU about Diebold. The problem with the machines is that 'Republicans' own the companies.

Has it ever entered your mind that every company has a leader and as shocking as it is....every leader is a person with a right to vote?? I suppose you would be happy if all voting machines came from companies controled by Democrats? But what would you do if a Democrat designed a ballot that their voters couldn't understand....cry foul?

36 posted on 01/12/2004 6:05:17 PM PST by Krodg
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To: GregD
People too dumb to vote are going to be too dumb to vote come what may. Computer systems won't help.
97 posted on 01/12/2004 10:00:29 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: GregD
Why, without voter fraud your party has no future. Just ask Dashole. Better get those Casino building permits pushed through, your going to need all of the reservations stuffing ballots in '04.



Like posted above: "Vote Early and Often".
133 posted on 01/13/2004 12:01:46 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: GregD
Greg,

I'm with you on this, but I have a question. Does your organization also advocate that each voter present some type of official photo identification in order to vote? Voting rights advocates emphasis disenfranchisement due to people being prevented from voting, but those who cast illegal votes do just as much harm to the system as those who are prevented from casting legal votes.
183 posted on 01/14/2004 9:10:33 AM PST by jaime1959
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To: GregD
"...I'm a Dem. As such, there may be things that this community and I would disagree upon."

Although new, you a certifiable Master of Understatement!

BTW, care to clue us in as to what an "ITA" is?
Indiana Transit Authority? Inhuman Technology Act?
Having read that piece through several times, I'm still at a loss.

192 posted on 01/15/2004 6:07:27 AM PST by Redbob
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