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Fear Osama pal escape - U.S. 'skeptical' No. 2's bagged as fight rages
New York Daily News ^ | 3/20/04 | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 03/20/2004 1:31:16 AM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON - Thousands of Pakistani troops poured heavy fire into the mountain stronghold where Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, may be hiding, but American officials fretted he may have gotten away.

American Predator drones hovered over the battlefield and about a dozen U.S. intelligence officers were helping the Pakistanis as the battle raged for the fourth day.

Thousands of civilians poured out of the 20-square-mile area surrounded by about 7,000 soldiers, but little else was known about what was going on in the remote region along the Afghanistan border.

"I don't know the situation today," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on CNN. "Pakistan has caused a lot of press attention, and it's not clear to me who's there, if anybody."

"I know that today there have been pitched battles...and a fair amount of people being killed on both sides," said an intelligence officer.

But as for Al-Zawahiri's fate, the official said, "We still don't know."

Another intelligence source said American officials grew "increasingly skeptical" about the operation when Pakistani forces, awaiting reinforcements Thursday night, gave the Al Qaeda fighters a deadline to surrender.

The deadline passed without any surrenders and the fighting resumed.

"It seems to be reminiscent of what we saw in Afghanistan at Tora Bora," said the source, referring to the escape by Al-Zawahiri and Osama Bin Laden during a mountain battle with Afghan troops in late 2001.

"Hesitation, negotiation, deadlines being given, exceeded, given again. It doesn't look all that hopeful," the source added. "It looks a lot softer right now. "

A Taliban spokesman claimed both Al-Zawahiri and Bin Laden were safe in Afghanistan.

But a Pakistani general rejected the possibility that any of the Al Qaeda fighters may have slipped away.

"They are surrounded, and they are trying to break the cordon and get away," military spokesman Major-General Shaukat Sultan told a news briefing in the capital, Islamabad.

"From the cordon we have put around these places, we are certain nobody would have escaped," he said.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for Afghan President Hamid Karzai said U.S. and Afghan troops had captured "semi-senior" terrorist leaders along the border with Pakistan, as they tightened security along the rugged frontier.

Presidential spokesman Jawed Ludin said it was unclear whether those detained had fled the battle in Pakistan, and declined to give any details of who might be in custody.

With News Wire Services

Originally published on March 20, 2004



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alzawahiri; hammerandanvil; pakistan; waziristan
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1 posted on 03/20/2004 1:31:16 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
The problem is that the Pakistanis may be fighting according to a different doctrine and bearing in mind local political considerations as they do.

If it was American troops, they might give a brief time to surrender, then flatten the area.

2 posted on 03/20/2004 1:40:14 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Actually i'd say if it was American troops the chances of HVT being let to escape would be zero. I like that the Pakistanis are helping us out but i am really not believing that they shall capture the guy. If they do then that is great (and the very well might), but the moment they did that ceasefire thingimajig it seemed like the dude had a perfect opportunity to escape.

On the other hand someone can say the ceasefire was meant to lure him into escaping, knowing that the US rules the night and the guy could be picked up with more ease at night (due to body heat) than during the day.

The coming days will tell.

3 posted on 03/20/2004 2:01:39 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear missiles: The ultimate Phallic symbol.)
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To: kattracks
Another intelligence source said American officials grew "increasingly skeptical" about the operation when Pakistani forces, awaiting reinforcements Thursday night, gave the Al Qaeda fighters a deadline to surrender a free pass.
4 posted on 03/20/2004 2:04:19 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: kattracks
If we left it to the Pakistanis, he has escaped. It's in their interest to keep milking this.
5 posted on 03/20/2004 2:32:12 AM PST by Roy Tucker
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Me too!

I would just love to hear what they're discussing (or screaming about) in the White House basement's Situation Room right now.



6 posted on 03/20/2004 2:35:37 AM PST by My Dog Likes Me
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To: kattracks
I read last night (and damned if I can find it again) that there was an armored SUV that escaped at the very start of this operation. That would have been their 'high value target'.
7 posted on 03/20/2004 3:29:24 AM PST by WSGilcrest (It's hard to get along when you're omnipotent.)
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To: WSGilcrest
It was an armored pick-up, and it was hit and destroyed as it ran a roadblock. Two white SUV's were also destroyed. The Pak's followed a blood trail leading from the abandoned pick-up (supposedly from the HVT) to this compound where the fighting has taken place. FWIW.

LLS
8 posted on 03/20/2004 4:06:56 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (We point out Kerry's record and the facts, and they just THINK it's attack politics.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
This could be over in 1/2 an hour. Drop 1 MAOB about 1/2 mile from the village. Once they clean the blood from their ears tell them they have 1/2 hour to come out.

Then drop the second bomb right on top of them.
9 posted on 03/20/2004 4:13:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Bury Kerry in 04! Down with Lenin Loving Lemmings....)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
I knew a few days ago this wouldnt pan out. Good news never seems to
10 posted on 03/20/2004 5:03:44 AM PST by raloxk
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To: kattracks; Dog; Coop; swarthyguy; Boot Hill; Angelus Errare; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Prodigal Son; ...
Now this tells me a good deal:

"I don't know the situation today," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on CNN. "Pakistan has caused a lot of press attention, and it's not clear to me who's there, if anybody."

11 posted on 03/20/2004 5:08:31 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: kattracks
The word "fear" is much overused.
12 posted on 03/20/2004 5:11:57 AM PST by verity
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To: Cap Huff
"I don't know the situation today," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on CNN. "Pakistan has caused a lot of press attention, and it's not clear to me who's there, if anybody."

"Meanwhile, a spokesman for Afghan President Hamid Karzai said U.S. and Afghan troops had captured "semi-senior" terrorist leaders along the border with Pakistan, as they tightened security along the rugged frontier."



The US officials have been very quiet on this. Could well be, an attempt to shake up the area and catch those who run.



13 posted on 03/20/2004 5:16:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Yes, look at this that I just posted. It was published some hours ago, but I couldn't find it on FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1101842/posts
14 posted on 03/20/2004 5:24:43 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
Thanks.

I imagine the "chatter" going on, will expose other fingers of these terrorists groups. Probably why US is staying so quiet.

This is so unlike the clintons when everything that happened was about them and bj could not keep his mouth shut. Everything was about him.
15 posted on 03/20/2004 5:30:53 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Sometimes silence is golden. (But oh my do I long to hear those same words used by Bremer back in December!).
16 posted on 03/20/2004 5:33:55 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Cap Huff
"Sometimes silence is golden.

(But oh my do I long to hear those same words used by Bremer back in December!)."


Morning of December 14, 2003! (I will never forget it was my father's birthday.)
17 posted on 03/20/2004 5:40:07 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Cap Huff
Boy do I feel silly! I read the headline too fast and thought, "The senate race in Illinois is getting exciting."
18 posted on 03/20/2004 6:44:43 AM PST by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: proudpapa
I gave up on Illinois politics years ago.
19 posted on 03/20/2004 6:52:27 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: kattracks
where Ayman Al-Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, may be hiding,

They were never sure he was there, he was only supposed to be. From some Pak spokesman on this morning, if AAZ got held up for one day, they closed the net before he got there.

20 posted on 03/20/2004 7:00:11 AM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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