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Court to sitcom writers: dirty jokes are actionable

Posted on 04/23/2004 8:14:07 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Amaani Lyle was fired four months into her job for Warner Brothers as a writers' assistant on "Friends" because she couldn't type fast enough to record the writers' dictation accurately. She sued for sexual harassment because the comedy writers would regularly make jokes about women and sex in the process of writing a sitcom about the sexual adventures of six thirty-somethings.

A California appeals court has decided that a jury should resolve whether the jokes made by the comedy writers were appropriate for writing a sitcom or whether they created an actionable "hostile working environment for women." Summary judgment was affirmed with respect to the dismissal of her lawsuit against NBC, because NBC did not have the right to hire or fire writers' assistants on the television show, but the court reversed the award of attorneys' fees.

Lyle v. Warner Bros. Television Prod. opinion).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 20somethingslist; aclulist; actionable; are; court; culturewar; dirty; employmentlist; jokes; noteworthy; philosophytime; sitcom; to; writers
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she was fired because she couldnt type fast so she sues fr sexual harrasment whats wrong with this picture ?
1 posted on 04/23/2004 8:14:08 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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ping
2 posted on 04/23/2004 8:18:26 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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If you type faster, sexual harassment isn't sexual harassment?
3 posted on 04/23/2004 8:21:42 AM PDT by T'wit (There's no evidence "Bush lied." But I can PROVE Bill Clinton told the truth -- once.)
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To: T'wit
apparently that is the case
4 posted on 04/23/2004 8:22:33 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: freepatriot32
That would be like working at the shop where they printPlayboy, and then sue them for sexual harrassment. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY..
5 posted on 04/23/2004 8:23:56 AM PDT by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: freepatriot32
>> the comedy writers would regularly make jokes about women and sex in the process of writing a sitcom about the sexual adventures of six thirty-somethings.

Those rotters! Those blackguards! Those swine! How dare they write jokes for a joke show!!

6 posted on 04/23/2004 8:24:03 AM PDT by T'wit (There's no evidence "Bush lied." But I can PROVE Bill Clinton told the truth -- once.)
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To: freepatriot32
That is ... OUTRAGEOUS! It's lewd! Lascivious! It's flaunting society's conventions!

And I know just the man for her to call:


7 posted on 04/23/2004 8:24:14 AM PDT by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: freepatriot32
She'd be the last female I hired if I ran that production company.
8 posted on 04/23/2004 8:25:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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oopos i forgotot post the source overlawered.com
9 posted on 04/23/2004 8:25:20 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: T'wit; Deb
It has NOTHING to do with sexual harassment.

She is a TYPIST; if she can't type fast enough to get down their "stream of consciousness" remarks, she HAS to be replaced.

It's the nature of the job.
10 posted on 04/23/2004 8:27:01 AM PDT by Howlin
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That would be like working at the shop where they printPlayboy, and then sue them for sexual harrassment.

AFTER they let you go for not being able to run the printing presses!

11 posted on 04/23/2004 8:28:11 AM PDT by Howlin
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...because she couldn't type fast enough to record the writers' dictation accurately

I don't know about the sexual harrassment c**p nor do I care about it. This is what jumped out at me. The "writers" are dictating to her? How can they be called "writers" when they are not actually writing anything? I realize this may be the way things are done now, but I wonder how many writers of the past would laugh at these clowns.

12 posted on 04/23/2004 8:50:19 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Howlin
There is this invention called a "tape recorder". Whatever is said is recorded on tape (hence the name) and can be played back anytime, anywhere, over and over.
13 posted on 04/23/2004 8:50:25 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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Exactly. I am a court reporter and NOBODY that takes verbatim "testimony" of ANY kind doesn't use a Marantz for backup.
14 posted on 04/23/2004 8:57:42 AM PDT by Howlin
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I don't know how it's done, but she may sit in the room with them and TRY to get down everything they are saying, just like she would in a deposition or a trial.

It's obvious she couldn't keep up.
15 posted on 04/23/2004 8:59:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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The "writers" are dictating to her? How can they be called "writers" when they are not actually writing anything?

It actually sounds like an efficient process, if you'll think for a minute about what they are trying to do. They probably put 2 or 3 writers together (remember, they are composing verbal repartee, not sonnets) and the typist records their free-form brainstorming so they and others (producers, etc) can review it later. It's much quicker to scan such a session in print than to have to listen to it on a recording.

16 posted on 04/23/2004 9:00:51 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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Good point from both of you. I stand corrected.
17 posted on 04/23/2004 9:06:59 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: freepatriot32
comedy writers would regularly make jokes

This must be stopped!

18 posted on 04/23/2004 9:17:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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There's another element to this. It's said the entire FRIENDS writing staff is gay.

That's the genesis of the problem, IMO. Her typing isn't the issue.

19 posted on 04/23/2004 9:19:30 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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comedy writers would regularly make jokes

This must be stopped!

In some places it has stopped already.

Franken=unfunny

20 posted on 04/23/2004 9:53:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. - Ann Coulter 4/1/04, How 9-11 Happened)
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