[ex 98C MI Dude]

The one thing lost in this whole matter is this:

What about the VICTIM of his crime?!

This illegal immigrant entered this country in the dark of night, and did commit murder most foul. This treaty the ICJ cites covers persons who have valid visas and passports, not those who have snuck in. He had no plans to return to Mexico. He was trying to stay here illegaly. He is not Mexican. He is a stateless person.

Who protects the US citizens from animals like him? The SCOTUS said the law of this country does. The ICJ has effectively said it does not. The ICJ can bite me.

[TexasGreg]

This illegal immigrant entered this country in the dark of night, and did commit murder most foul. This treaty the ICJ cites covers persons who have valid visas and passports, not those who have snuck in. He had no plans to return to Mexico. He was trying to stay here illegaly. He is not Mexican. He is a stateless person.

You are correct in that this scum is a murdering monster and merits death. As I wrote earlier, his having access to his consular rights would not have made any difference in the outcome of the case. Just because he is an illegal alien doesn't mean that we are free to do whatever we please; it is STILL proper for us to observe and uphold our treaty obligations based on PRINCIPLE, not the specifics of any one case. We are a FAR better country than any other when it comes to human rights.

I wish the guy would fry; had we done our job right and provided him with his consular rights TO BEGIN WITH, there is a VERY good chance he would have been convicted and sentenced to death ANYWAY ... and, hence, rather than having the current situation, he would be on his way to the chair (or whatever they use in OK).

Who protects the US citizens from animals like him? The SCOTUS said the law of this country does. The ICJ has effectively said it does not. The ICJ can bite me.

You're going over board, here. Even this particular treaty recognizes that the laws of the country in which the crime occured are the laws which prevail. ALL this treaty does is ensure that foreign nationals have consular rights. Had we done the right thing in his case, and ensured those rights, his death penalty would still be in place. But, no, because we failed our Judicial System has a resulting taint on it that must be addressed.