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1 posted on 07/25/2004 11:47:38 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: RightWhale

ping


2 posted on 07/25/2004 11:48:27 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green; snopercod

Hannibal Twin-8 Bump.


3 posted on 07/25/2004 11:53:32 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Willie Green
I remember when I was a kid, my dad taking me to the plant in his town in northwestern Wisconsin that made coal oil. It smelled somewhat different than kerosene. They made oil for lamps and stoves before electricity. I remember the mountain of coal brought in by the trains outside the plant that would be brought in and process it inside somehow converting the coal into coal oil. I didn't know this was a new process...
4 posted on 07/25/2004 12:06:02 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Willie Green

" Cheap gasoline made coal-to-diesel economically indefensible in the 1990s. But now, with oil prices stuck at near-record highs, the idea is beginning to gain traction."

So this supplies an expensive source of diesel...
... and all they have to do is turn the spigots on again after we have spent the billions on these plants.


5 posted on 07/25/2004 12:08:25 PM PDT by RS (Just because they're out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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A post from the Vault of fogotten posts:

Oil from Coal....Boon, Bane, or Boondoggle?

6 posted on 07/25/2004 12:11:44 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Willie Green
Sasol’s Secunda synthesis plant
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10 posted on 07/25/2004 12:36:19 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Willie Green
"Mike Ewall, an environmental activist from Philadelphia, said it would be far better to plant beach grass on the culm piles than to use up the coal."

One would expect an "environmental activist" to badmouth a project like this one. It doesn't contribute to his agenda of destroying capitalism in America.

admittedly, this process still had the problems of getting coal to the processing plant, but in this instance, having the feedstock already sitting there provides not only the incentive to use this process, it provides a working model to research and improve the process.

I say kudos to the enterprise.

12 posted on 07/25/2004 12:49:15 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Willie Green

Ukraine has a lot of waste from their mines, but they prefer propane in their trucks.


13 posted on 07/25/2004 1:44:06 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Willie Green

yawn, this technology is ancient. First the Germans in WW 2, then the South Africans during the the embargos and boycotts.

South Africa had the most advanced SASOL coal conversion plants in the world after the White hating US/UN banned all petroleum products being shipped to South Africa in years past.


14 posted on 07/25/2004 1:45:35 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Willie Green
Or, would it be simpler and more efficient to simply use the culm in one of the "waste into oil" machines that have been discussed here in the past?

One of those "waste into oil" machines is supposed to be built nearby, I want a tour when it is completed!

16 posted on 07/25/2004 8:59:32 PM PDT by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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