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Kerry Ads Underscore His Vietnam Service
Orlando Sentinel ^ | June 21, 2004 | DAVID ESPO | AP Special Correspondent

Posted on 08/20/2004 11:11:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

One poll found that more than half the voters questioned had seen or heard of an ad by Swift Boat Veterans For Truth that accuses Kerry of lying about events that earned him five medals in Vietnam a generation ago. The University of Pennsylvania's National Annenberg Election Survey also found that 44 percent of self-described independent voters found the ad very or somewhat believable.

Separately, a CBS poll found a sharp drop in Kerry's support among both veterans since the end of the Democratic Convention.

Kerry's campaign scripted the convention, which ended three weeks ago, to establish him as a battle-tested veteran ready to assume command in an era of terrorism. Polls after the convention indicated he had made considerable progress toward that goal.

In a commercial that officials said was filmed on Thursday, the Democratic Party showed retired Air Force General Merrill A. McPeak saying he had endorsed Bush four years ago but was backing Kerry now.

.............That message is sharply at odds with the image portrayed in the anti-Kerry ad -- the one the Massachusetts senator denounced on Thursday when he said Bush was relying on front groups to "do his dirty work."

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said several times that the senator's Thursday comments showed he had lost his cool, a suggestion that Bush's rival lacked presidential temperament.

"I do think that Senator Kerry losing his cool should not be an excuse for him to lash out at the president with false and baseless attacks," the spokesman told reporters in Crawford, Texas.

"We've already said we weren't involved in any way in these ads," he said. "We've made that clear."

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; campaign; johnkerry; kerry; politics; poll; swiftboats; swiftboatveterans; veterans; vietnam
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Fred Barnes: The Bloody Shirt Is Back ***..........Why is Kerry leaning so heavily on his performance in Vietnam? It's a bulwark against attacks on his weak record on defense and national security as a U.S. senator since 1985. In an era of terrorist attacks, his votes to cut intelligence spending, indeed his overall dovishness, are liabilities. So the theme of nearly every speaker at the Democratic convention in July was that Kerry's Vietnam service, not his Senate record, reflects the kind of president he would be. "I defended this country as a young man and I will defend it as president," Kerry declared.........***
1 posted on 08/20/2004 11:11:33 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's still june???? ;)


2 posted on 08/20/2004 11:13:43 PM PDT by flashbunny (Kerry helped move jobs to china - http://www.flashbunny.org/commentary/kerryoutsourced.html)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

 
 
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3 posted on 08/20/2004 11:16:40 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: flashbunny
No, it's almost September!

The last paragraph in the Daily Telegraph (London) ***A CBS poll yesterday showed that Mr Kerry's support had slumped. Bush and Kerry were even on 46 per cent backing from former servicemen late last month. Now Mr Bush leads with 55 per cent to Mr Kerry's 37. One American voter in six has served in the armed forces.***

4 posted on 08/20/2004 11:16:53 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why on earth is he continuing to lean on the one crutch that can weaken him most? Is the rest of his campaign really that bad? That this is the best he has?


5 posted on 08/20/2004 11:23:33 PM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: HarryCaul

Perhaps the senate stuff is worse than the Vietnam skeletons...


6 posted on 08/20/2004 11:26:27 PM PDT by Libertina (Kerry: Book Bans R Us)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"We've already said we weren't involved in any way in these ads," he said. "We've made that clear."

Slap down.
Execution: Perfect 10

7 posted on 08/20/2004 11:27:40 PM PDT by Libertina (Kerry: Book Bans R Us)
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To: Libertina
George W. Bush has a life after the White House.


President George W. Bush clears cedar at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, Friday, Aug. 9, 2002.

8 posted on 08/20/2004 11:35:58 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

are you implying that kerry was in vietnam? this is the first I have heard of this.


9 posted on 08/20/2004 11:38:01 PM PDT by isom35
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looking good, Mr. President! :)
Thanks Cin!


10 posted on 08/20/2004 11:40:48 PM PDT by Libertina (Kerry: Book Bans R Us)
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To: isom35
Last night on Fox News, supporters of John Kerry in Hanoi where speaking up for him.


John Kerry directing VVAW's (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) massive pro-Hanoi demonstration in Washington. - April 1971

Source

11 posted on 08/20/2004 11:43:38 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here is a few lies told by John Kerry himself, that will come back to haunt him....

Lie #1) John Kerry claimed all the Swift Boats fled the scene on March 13th, 1969 after the #3 boat hit a mine. Kerry claims it was him who turned his boat around, directly into enemy fire to rescue James Rassman........

FACT: John Kerry was the only OIC of a Swift Boat to flee the scene immediately after the #3 Boat struck the mine. According to John Kerry's own report, he had to navigate his Boat through 5,000 Meters "Intense Enemy Fire" from both shore lines. That means John Kerry fled the scene for a distance of 2.7 miles. At a top speed of 50 MPH, that would mean John Kerry ran away for at least 3 minutes before turning around! All 4 other Swift Boat OIC say there was no enemy fire..... Who Should we believe?

Lie #2) John Kerry claims in his book "Tour of Duty" that the turning point against the War for him was when he was ordered into Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968. John Kerry says that experience was seared into his memory because everyone was being told by Richard Nixon that we were not entering Cambodia.

FACT: John Kerry has already changed his toon on this subject, by explaining it away as something that happened a long time ago and that he was most likely near Cambodia. In 1996 he spoke from the Senate Floor and used this "Seared" memory to denounce the efforts of Ronald Reagan to arm the Contra's in South America. John Kerry LIED

These two major lies should be enough to bring him and his multi billionaire, ultra liberal whack jobs, to their knee's

12 posted on 08/20/2004 11:48:56 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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Vietnam Vets in Hanoi Back Kerry with T-Shirts***The T-shirts being sold for $5 have "Americans Overseas for Kerry" on the front and a picture of President Bush's face with a line crossed through it.

Searcy said Larry Holzman, a Hanoi-based American who runs a non-profit organization, arranged for 100 T-shirts to be printed, with the shipment arriving a few days ago. About 25 shirts have been sold, he added. ***


Vietnam War veterans, from left to right, Chuck Searcy, Andre Sauvageot, John Lancaster and Phil Karber, try on 'Vote For Kerry' T-shirts at the American Club in Hanoi, Vietnam, on Friday, Aug. 20, 2004. As debate continues in America over Kerry's Vietnam War service record, the veterans gathered Friday to launch a campaign supporting the man who fought alongside them here. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel)

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I wonder if they work for John Kerry's cousin who has huge business interests in Vietnam.

13 posted on 08/20/2004 11:52:04 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I've read Barnes 'bloody shirt' column, too. It is excellent.


14 posted on 08/20/2004 11:54:29 PM PDT by IPWGOP (I'm Linda Eddy, and I approved this message... 'tooning the truth!)
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To: IPWGOP
As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned ? and I don't mean his $75 haircuts. When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C.Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam ? An odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died. The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam. MICHAEL BENGE Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973) Source

15 posted on 08/21/2004 12:07:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MJY1288

Bump!


16 posted on 08/21/2004 12:08:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: counterpunch
Kerry Ads Underscore His Vietnam Service

--------He has served Vietnam well --------------------- New Swift Boat Ad


John Kerry testifies before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, chaired by William Fulbright, in April 1971. Photo UPI

17 posted on 08/21/2004 12:11:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Headline writer gets 3 DNC points for that one.


18 posted on 08/21/2004 12:12:54 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com www.wintersoldier.com www.kerrylied.com)
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To: Nick Danger

As I pointed out in Post# 17 - He HAS SERVED Vietnam well.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 12:14:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

geez....why do you think that kerry's cousin having the EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO ANY and ALL REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS IN
VIET NAM....is considered a "HUGE business interest" ??

...(the sarcasm off thingee FOR SURE goes in this spot)...

..ooops...almost forgot the MOST important thing...

This humble freeper would like to THANK YOU VERY MUCH, Cincinatus' Wife, for all your VERY informative, and much appreciated, great posts here on FR .....Thanks!!


20 posted on 08/21/2004 12:15:12 AM PDT by musicman
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