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To: eureka!

I believe that when the West will be aroused (and yes, it will happen... after a few hundred thousand are killed by the muslims)... there will be a mass massacre of muslims in Europe à la St Barthelemy...


11 posted on 09/09/2004 6:52:38 AM PDT by Pitiricus
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To: Pitiricus
there will be a mass massacre of muslims in Europe à la St Barthelemy...

I think you are way too optimistic.

Europe will lay down and submit. They are all but already there.

You are probably basing your assumption that there is still active energized Christians in Europe. There are churches still, but for the most part are filled with old people.

18 posted on 09/09/2004 7:03:17 AM PDT by Popman
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Re#11 I don't foresee that, yet. I do see that France is way behind the curve. The present holds many troubling facts for the future, that's for sure....


28 posted on 09/09/2004 7:28:25 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Pitiricus

...And it can't happen fast enough.


37 posted on 09/09/2004 7:57:32 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: Pitiricus

I agree.

The only way to stop this sort of thing is to make the cost of misbehavior unbearable.

We can cling to the illusion that humans today are somehow more sensitive or moral than they were during WWII, or that the Germans were somehow a flawed people, but the fact is that all humans have the capacity for barbarity.

Civilization is a thin veil over the ugly face of self-preservation at any cost -- A fact the Islamofascists have embraced.

We are in a cultural war, and will remain so until there is a winner. Islam in its present state cannot survive in the face of economic and social progress, and civilization cannot advance with the ball and chain of fundamentalist religion or extremism gnawing away at it.

In assymetrical warfare, the distinction between militant and civilian is blurred. We fear enraging the Islamic world while ignoring the fact that they only real method they have available to fight us is terrorism. We balk at breeding more extremist recruits, or at damaging the mosques that they are indoctrinated in.

The Soviets understood one thing: Fear is a universal motivator. A young man willing to die in a blaze of nail-bomb glory may balk at the idea that his mosque, family, and city would be razed in retaliation. Radical Islamic clerics may realize that inciting their adherents to violence is shrinking the religion rather than expanding it when their cities begin disappearing one by one in retaliation for school bombings.

The empire-builders of bygone years understood that pacifying people required making the cost of insurgency and rebellion so great that those who would be inclined to participate were cowed.

We may not be building an empire, but we had better be prepared to win the war. Not just against the Islamists, but against a world who would see our sovereignty and right to self-defense diminished to subordinated to an international body.

World opinion means exactly nothing to me. Survival, safety for my children, and a proud, self-sufficient America means everything to me.


40 posted on 09/09/2004 8:08:51 AM PDT by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: Pitiricus

I believe that when the West will be aroused (and yes, it will happen... after a few hundred thousand are killed by the muslims)... there will be a mass massacre of muslims in Europe à la St Barthelemy...


I expect some kind of civil war in Europe, depending on how well future generations of Muslims integrate. The new generations of 'old' Europeans won't be quite so idealistic. Look for a Fourth or Fifth Reich.


52 posted on 09/09/2004 9:37:45 AM PDT by nosofar ("I'm not above the Law. I am the Law!" - Judge Dredd)
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