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Why GW did poorly in the first debate?

Posted on 10/14/2004 10:14:03 AM PDT by ivoteprolife

I personally think the first debate was a tie and the second debate GW up slightly but by the 3rd debate John Kerry was used to mop the floor.

Why?

GW’s strong suit was supposed to be the first debate. Shouldn’t he have won it?

Let’s look at this for a minute. If you are an A student in math do you study for that test or do you study for the test in English where you are a C student?

GW and his team did NOT prepare him for debate 1 because his numbers were already up for this debate instead they have been preparing GW for this 3rd and final debate. Smart team.

I think the GW team knew John Kerry and John Edwards…the 2 “johns” :oÞ were going to loose it…”big time”.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: firstdebate; gwb2004; vanityinsanity
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1 posted on 10/14/2004 10:14:04 AM PDT by ivoteprolife
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To: ivoteprolife

Bush will not be declared the victor of any debate so long as the Leftist Media has a say in the matter. That's guaranteed.


2 posted on 10/14/2004 10:15:14 AM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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The liberal media are snobs. There's a lot of bias against people who come across as "just plain folks," country, from the south. Bush has the manner of a down to earth, ordinary man, so he's going to get slammed.


3 posted on 10/14/2004 10:16:46 AM PDT by Old Lady
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To: ivoteprolife

Welcome to FR. Please don't start a thread with short statemens of opinion (otherwise known as "vanity" threads) - instead, please find a relevant thread already underway and post your comments there. Thanks.


4 posted on 10/14/2004 10:17:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: ivoteprolife
I still can't figure out why Bush didn't bring up Kerry's record of siding with our enemies during the first debate.

Kerry's meeting with Daniel Ortega and his pledge of support to Ortega's communist Sandinistas during the '80s should have been front and center in debate #1.

Bush could have and should have painted Kerry as someone who has always been a traitor who has consistently been on the wrong side of history.


5 posted on 10/14/2004 10:20:19 AM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: ivoteprolife

I guess they didn't wire him in the first debate, huh?


6 posted on 10/14/2004 10:20:48 AM PDT by Brilliant
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When Kerry wins a debate, they call it for Kerry. When Bush wins a debate, they call it a draw. Hmmmm...wonder why?


7 posted on 10/14/2004 10:21:24 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Chazal)
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To: ivoteprolife

In the first debate, Bush won in the first 90 minutes. Maybe you're only remembering the end momentum shift.


8 posted on 10/14/2004 10:22:27 AM PDT by Terpfen (Wanted: Laura Ingraham's leopard miniskirt picture. Links welcomed!)
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To: Brilliant
I guess they didn't wire him in the first debate, huh?

Actually they did, but all he was getting was static. So he had no idea what he was supposed to say. That's what all my liberal friends are saying, anyway.

9 posted on 10/14/2004 10:23:14 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Prime Choice

Four years ago the media had no problem declaring Bush the winner in debates. And they were critical of Al Gore some times too. What has happened in 4 years??


10 posted on 10/14/2004 10:23:42 AM PDT by BonnieJ
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To: ivoteprolife

Simple. Bush wasn't wired for the first debate. /s


11 posted on 10/14/2004 10:23:59 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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It's tough when you are dealing with a liar, or someone who remembers things differently than they really are.

President Bush would rather DIE than LIE to WIN.

sinator Kerry would rather LIE and have YOU DIE, to WIN.


Just ask the Viet Vets and POW's, and our military in IRAQ.


12 posted on 10/14/2004 10:25:21 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (THE MAN will keep you down, until you become a MAN.)
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To: BonnieJ
Four years ago the media had no problem declaring Bush the winner in debates.

We must have a different perception of the media. During that time, the media fell over itself praising Gore's "victories" in the debates.

And they were critical of Al Gore some times too.

Who? When? What paper?

What has happened in 4 years??

They found out that Bush was a man of his word. They also found out that Bush prefers substance over slickness. Hell, in the weeks before 9/11, the media was doing nothing but bellyaching about how "boring" Washington DC was now that Hollywood celebrities weren't being invited to parties!

13 posted on 10/14/2004 10:27:01 AM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: BlackRazor

The interesting thing is that these guys believe this stuff. Man, are they brain diseased.


14 posted on 10/14/2004 10:27:13 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: dirtboy

I guess I missed those rules. Can you direct me to them?


15 posted on 10/14/2004 10:27:45 AM PDT by ivoteprolife (life is a gift...and who throws away gifts?)
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To: ivoteprolife

I will just repeat that deliberate or not, Bush's "loss" of the first debate kept the DNC's money on Kerry's table when it was about to be yanked for the struggling senate candidates. Most of those races are shaping up in our favor. Murkowski still not up, but all the other Republicans up or tied. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF BUSH HAD WON.


16 posted on 10/14/2004 10:29:12 AM PDT by LS
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To: ivoteprolife

Could be he was workin' for a livin' while all Kerry was only campaigning.


17 posted on 10/14/2004 10:30:21 AM PDT by najida (There is nothing friendlier than a wet dog, except for maybe a 100 pound wet dog.)
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To: ivoteprolife

The first debate was judged on style, not substance. Bush allowed Kerry to get away with contradicting himself on every issue. No one was really questioning Kerry's statements, so Kerry won.


18 posted on 10/14/2004 10:30:26 AM PDT by Eva (W)
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To: ivoteprolife; Howlin
I guess I missed those rules. Can you direct me to them?

Care to do the honors, Howlin?

19 posted on 10/14/2004 10:31:36 AM PDT by dirtboy (Kerry could have left 'Nam within a week if Purple Hearts were awarded for shots to the foot.)
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To: Old Lady

>>>> The liberal media are snobs. There's a lot of bias against people who come across as "just plain folks," country, from the south.

Interesting theory -- but the MSM still falls over Carter to this day, he comes off the same way, and he actually is from the south. I guess the same could be said for the male Klintoon.


20 posted on 10/14/2004 10:31:39 AM PDT by dubyain04jebin08and12
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