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To: Gondring

Interesting quote from the link -

"Were the plaintiffs to prevail in this case, attending religious conferences would instantly become the favored method for terrorists and other Islamists to cross the American border without hindrance."

"... terrorists and OTHER Islamists...."

...so simply being and American Citizen and an Islamist, NOT a terrorist suspect, is gounds for being hindered ?

They are to singled out for special tratment BECAUSE of their religion ? .... This from a Jewish publication ?????


8 posted on 04/26/2005 9:20:32 AM PDT by RS (""I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
"... terrorists and OTHER Islamists...."

Well, on the other hand, they imply that not every Islamist is a terrorist, which will certainly upset some around here.

9 posted on 04/26/2005 9:40:03 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: RS; jan in Colorado; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger; swordfish71; Fred Nerks; USF; ...
They are to singled out for special tratment BECAUSE of their religion ? .... This from a Jewish publication ?????

Yeah, it's not like Muslims ever singled out JEWS for "special treatment." Like say, the special treatment Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl received.

(Fellow infidels, the thread lives on!)

11 posted on 04/26/2005 10:40:19 AM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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To: RS; ariamne; jan in Colorado; Former Dodger; USF; backhoe; Hudobna; Fred Nerks; TexasCowboy; ...

>...so simply being and American Citizen and an Islamist...<

Well, gee, y'know....ever since the leader of CAIR stated unequivocally and without repentence or retraction that the goal of Islam in America was not to coexist with other religions, but to dominate them, eliminate them and become preeminent...I have had no problem with giving Satan's own Phony Religion Of Peace "special treatment". In fact, I do not think Islam has yet been treated "special" enough in these United States. Notice I specifically, scrupulously, do NOT say "every muslim practitioner" - but instead aim my indictment at Islam itself, and my identifying remarks at its vocal leadership.

See - the huge problem is that most of us here in America do not speak, read, or write Arabic, whereas all of them do one or more of the above. Sure Catholics used to speak only Latin - in the Liturgy at Mass. But there were lots of Latin speaking non-Catholics around to interpret, reassuring us that there were no nefarious plots afoot to undermine the Constitution of the U.S.

Taking advantage of that fact, these slimy paedophile prophet proteges and moon-god sycophants talk out of more sides of their mouths than I knew a human being could have! They say one thing in public squares when pleading for tolerance, community values, blah-blah-blah another when addressing the news media, yet another thing within the shelter of their own armories - errr I mean mosques, and still another at religious leadership "symposiums" like the one held last year in Texas.

They preach tolerance out of whichever side of their mouths they must for long enough to win sympathy, and engender alliances with the deluded, dazed and confused - like you - but once they have the protection sufficient to allow their numbers to grow unchecked,twelve hundred years of history has shown an unending and unchanging pattern of their leaders rallying them around the flag of Islam and casting aside these relationships of convenience in favor of open, brutal, and merciless all-out war.

It's not okay with me for them to, on the one hand, protest being made the victims of stereotyping, class distinctions and religious hatred, while on the other hand they do precisely all of the above to us while living comfortably among us. It is not okay with me for their leaders to sit in their mosques and home groups and by their arrogant and hateful preaching, draw targets on my back, and that of my friend or neighbor, so whether you mind or not, I will continue to support, and voice discrimination like this myself. It very well may save your life some day.

Remember two things: 1)the Nazi's were once a small disenfranchised minority party of malcontent crackpots, that most people either tolerated indulgently, or dismissed altogether as posing any real threat to civilised society in Germany, and 2) today's Islamist movement (though muhammadism predates Nazi Socialism) owes much of its strength, vitriol, and organisational facility to alliances forged directly with Adolf Hitler (read about the muslim Nazi hussar regiment if you are not educated about those ties), and even a few months ago, Arabic language copies of Mein Kampf were found in PLO (Islamist terrorists) hands in the middle east.

If you think that represents a unique or isolated incident or point of view among the Islamists, then it is truly time to pull your head out...of the sand. The Islamists hate all Jews, period. I love the Jews and support Israel, period. Therefore the Islamists will hate and want to kill me and all of mine, and I will kill them to prevent that!

A.A.C.

(awake and smelling the coffee...)

partial P.R.O.P.* list ping!

(*Phony Religion Of Peace)


15 posted on 04/26/2005 12:59:55 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: RS; Convert from ECUSA
"They are to singled out for special treatment BECAUSE of their religion ?"

Please recall the Pope's warning concerning the "dictatorship of relativism". Nazism and Socialism both operate with the same nature as "religion". Even "atheism" becomes religious when pushed to the extreme of state enforcement and subsequent persecution of those worshiping the supernatural (i.e. Communism).

The errors of relativism demands equality of all religious thoughts and ideas. Why is this so erroneous?

One time, Europeans thought that the world was flat. We know better now. However, should politics push hard enough to reinstate such belief to be elevated to the same status of Truth, would we be obligated to not judge such an error?

Quis est verum? The errors of Nazism, Communism/Socialism, and Islam will take a back seat to Truth because these heresies have been rendered ineffective by historical example. They cannot compete with Truth since they aren't modeled after it.

When an American citizen seeks a position of special trust and confidence (like being a military officer), that individual gets a background check concerning his or her character. Questions searching if the individual is part of an organization or has ever participated in the destruction of the American government have to be answered. Islam, by its very nature, is against the American model of government. Those who fight for equality of the Islamic model (different from the inclusion of Muslims) are fighting the American Constitution.

Ironically, not even the majority of Muslims want America to change. They left their old country for a reason and probably didn't want it to follow them.
58 posted on 04/27/2005 7:41:51 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (May the Blessed Virgin guide mankind's effort to reaching a Just and lasting Peace.)
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To: RS
.so simply being and American Citizen and an Islamist, NOT a terrorist suspect, is gounds for being hindered ?

Drop you PC crap!

We are at War with Islam and Muslims here in America should cooperate.

In WW1 and WW2 Italian,Japanese, and German Americans were all rightfully scrutinzed. Of course the Liberal Media you listen to only mentions the Japanese who were interned and forget to mention German and Italian Americas who were interned.

If any group of Americans should be alarmed about the growing Muslim population in America, it is rightfully Jewish Americans, because they know first hand how evil Islam can be.

69 posted on 04/27/2005 11:16:34 AM PDT by Evolution
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To: RS
"They are to singled out for special tratment BECAUSE of their religion ? .... This from a Jewish publication ?????" Therein lies the conundrum. We are confronting an ideology in the form of a culture and religion that openly advocates destruction, murder and the overthrow of the United States. And we're supposed to give members of that religion and culture the benefit of the doubt, kevubg the terrorists among them are free to perpetrate their mayhem. It's a lose-lose situation.
273 posted on 04/30/2005 9:41:37 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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