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Crusade of Controversy (Boycott anti-Christian 'Kingdom of Heaven?)
Washington Times ^ | May 6, 2005 | Scott Galup

Posted on 05/06/2005 8:41:56 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

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To: bnelson44

I'm sure somebody thought it was a lost cause. There's always somebody to think everything is a lost cause, it's the nature of man.


42 posted on 05/06/2005 9:47:53 PM PDT by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Eagles6

The Battle of Tours on one side and the battle and siege of Vienna on the other side. I agree, great movie material.


43 posted on 05/06/2005 9:48:16 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: GulliverSwift
The movie is fiction set in a few historical references.

It is an interesting tale, fit for telling on the big screen (with "stadium style" seating).

We enjoyed it, and I must add we didn't go in with a chip on our shoulder, looking to be offended... after all it's just entertainment.

44 posted on 05/06/2005 9:48:19 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: discostu

"lost cause..."

your right of course.


45 posted on 05/06/2005 9:49:24 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Armed Forces Day May 21, 2005)
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To: Antoninus

Scott has never been a good storyteller. His movies live and breathe on his Art School background. 'Blade Runner' has minimal plot but is eye poppingly beautiful to look at.


46 posted on 05/06/2005 9:49:48 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Eagles6

The said thing is that this time the Europeans are going to lose the battle of Tours as their birth rate continues to fall and they allow more muslim immigrants.


47 posted on 05/06/2005 9:50:04 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: Mrs Mark

I enjoy a nice violent war movie, but I don't want to pay to help a certain liberal point of view.


48 posted on 05/06/2005 9:52:07 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: Eagles6

Hollywood would mess it up and void all sense of accuracy.


49 posted on 05/06/2005 9:56:34 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: pacpam

The Muslims would "relieve" the poor peasants from their evil Christian rulers who abuse them.


50 posted on 05/06/2005 9:58:24 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: Borges

Saladin wasn't, but the Mamluks were. One of their leaders Baybars was ruthless and unlike Saladin did not cloak his policy in the language of Jihad. In 163 he destroyed the cathedral at Nazareth. He took the Templar fortress at Safad and massacred the garrison after agreeing to spare its defenders. He sacked Jaffa in 1268 and took the city of Antioch and killed its inhabitants. It was probably the single greatest massacre of the crusading period.(Madden, page 181).


51 posted on 05/06/2005 10:06:59 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: GulliverSwift

Scott is typical of the British left, which is hostile to Christianity.


52 posted on 05/06/2005 10:09:21 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: RobbyS

He's "savvy," which means you have to be pro-nonwestern and specifically, anti-Christian.


53 posted on 05/06/2005 10:22:54 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: Eagles6
A movie should be made about The Battle of Tours and the euros should be forced to watch. Really though, that would be a great historically accurate film.

I read somewhere that the Battle of Tours was--among many other things--the origin of the French baked good known as thecroissant, which came to symbolize Charles Martel's destruction and Christian France's "devouring" of a vastly superior (in numbers) Muslim force.

54 posted on 05/06/2005 10:35:10 PM PDT by CDB
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To: GulliverSwift
To boycott something, you first need some intention to patronize it in the first place.
55 posted on 05/06/2005 10:39:02 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: CDB
From wikipedia:

Martel's Frankish army defeated an Arab army, which had swept through southern Asia and north Africa, before conquering most of the Iberian peninsula and much of southern France. Only once in history did infantry without bows and arrows or firearms withstand mounted and armoured cavalry. Martel achieved lasting greatness by inspiring his Franks to do what was thought to be impossible.

It was this battle that earned Charles the surname "Martel," for the merciless way he smote his enemies. Most historians believe that had he failed at Tours, Islam would probably have overun Europe.

56 posted on 05/06/2005 10:44:59 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: GulliverSwift
Please point out where in his movies you see an Anti-western or anti Christian bent? Really those terms are losing their force when you apply them to someone like Ridley Scott. I've even heard people say Gladiator was anti-Christian since it 'ignored' the Christianity in Rome at the time where it was a growing faith. Leaving it out of the film was seen as something of a slight. People are actively looking for something to be offended about. It's getting beyond ridiculous.
57 posted on 05/06/2005 10:50:20 PM PDT by Borges
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To: GulliverSwift

I saw it today. It's boring. Not much of a story; no passion or excitement. It did try to be neutral in some respects, but I found I didn't care because it was such a boring flick.


58 posted on 05/06/2005 10:50:55 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: Borges

I've never said that any of his previous movies were anti-Christian.


59 posted on 05/06/2005 10:54:30 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Just say no to McCain and Giulliani)
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To: GulliverSwift
He's "savvy," which means you have to be pro-nonwestern and specifically, anti-Christian.

Sorry if I misinterpreted.
60 posted on 05/06/2005 10:56:48 PM PDT by Borges
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