Why don't they do a movie about the Muslim armies who forced Islam on all the previously Christian countries in the Middle East, or a movie about the Muslim takeover of Spain, or the battle to take over
Vienna?
I liked Ridley Scott's Gladiator movie, but that was not a Christian-bashing liberal movie.
I hope the movie studio, which spent millions of dollars on this movie, will experience a massive failure such as that endured by the makers of the homo movie 'Alexandar.'
I for one will not see it.
(BTW, I'm looking forward to Gladiator 2, unless it cheers on lions eating Christians in the Coliseum.)
To: GulliverSwift
I wouldn't mind an honest and objective movie about the Crusades, i.e., not covering up the bad stuff like the sack of Constantinople or the massacre in Jerusalem, but which also tries to understand the beliefs and thinking of the time, not just try to score points based on some contemporary political agenda. I guess this is not the movie I was hoping for.
To: GulliverSwift
Unfortunately, many people who go to see the movie will probably accept every little detail as fact.
(I have to admit, I myself knew and still know very little about the Crusades. Until recently, I had been taught that it was a war started by Christians to force Christianity on other parts of the world).
To: GulliverSwift
From what I understand the extremists come off badly on both sides.
6 posted on
05/06/2005 8:56:46 PM PDT by
Borges
To: GulliverSwift
Saladin, a Kurd, is played by an Arab actor. Of course, in the general confusion of this film the fact that Kurds are not Arabs hardly merits mention. Sorry I brought it up.
To: GulliverSwift
Does ANYONE believe hollyweird types can do anything to show christianity as eeeeeeeevil and Islam as good?
They kowtow to islam pc advocates and poop upon any christianity positives.
To: GulliverSwift
Did it say that CAIR liked this movie?
Well that says it all.
It is Pro-Muslim tripe...
To: GulliverSwift
Also, that Christians started it. The guy is obviously an idiot. The battle of tours was 732, the Muslime were not kicked out of Spain until 1492, and the Balkans were not freed until 1913.
29 posted on
05/06/2005 9:33:39 PM PDT by
D Rider
To: GulliverSwift
Or how about the Muslim cultural and demographic genocides committed in India? The following quote fro mWil land Ariel Durant is telling:
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without and multiplying from within."
--Will Durant, The Story of Civilization
31 posted on
05/06/2005 9:35:19 PM PDT by
Noumenon
(Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
To: GulliverSwift
"I think we did," Mr. Scott says, referring broadly to Western Christendom and echoing conventional 20th-century wisdom that the Crusades (a succession of battles and skirmishes running from 1095 to 1291) began as an act of Christian aggression namely Pope Urban II's order to take back Jerusalem from Muslim Turks.
Sure, as long as we're willing to call 1095 the starting point of history. No need to worry about the previous 400 years of Islamic conquest, slaughter, and destruction.
Is there such a thing as a self-hating Christian? Ridley Scott could be their poster boy.
35 posted on
05/06/2005 9:40:39 PM PDT by
Antoninus
(Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
To: GulliverSwift
The movie is fiction set in a few historical references.
It is an interesting tale, fit for telling on the big screen (with "stadium style" seating).
We enjoyed it, and I must add we didn't go in with a chip on our shoulder, looking to be offended... after all it's just entertainment.
44 posted on
05/06/2005 9:48:19 PM PDT by
Mark was here
(My tag line was about to be censored.)
To: GulliverSwift
To boycott something, you first need some intention to patronize it in the first place.
55 posted on
05/06/2005 10:39:02 PM PDT by
JasonC
To: GulliverSwift
I saw it today. It's boring. Not much of a story; no passion or excitement. It did try to be neutral in some respects, but I found I didn't care because it was such a boring flick.
58 posted on
05/06/2005 10:50:55 PM PDT by
bethelgrad
(for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
64 posted on
05/06/2005 11:06:08 PM PDT by
Captainpaintball
(All it takes for evil to triumph is for Republicans to befriend, act like, and give in to, Democrats)
To: GulliverSwift
68 posted on
05/07/2005 12:39:33 AM PDT by
Daaave
(Use only as directed.)
To: GulliverSwift
"Why don't they do a movie about the Muslim armies who forced Islam on all the previously Christian countries in the Middle East, or a movie about the Muslim takeover of Spain, or the battle to take over Vienna?" Because Christians are an easier target. Scott won't get a fatwa issued against him and he'll sell tickets in the middle east.
To: GulliverSwift
"Boycott anti-Christian 'Kingdom of Heaven'"
Already done, revisionist history that whitewashes Saladin and Islam while portraying Christians as bad guys is off my list.
While I enjoy and have financially supported Scott's other films, I will not spend a dime to see those bad Christians being mean to those nice conquering, butchering Muslims. All in the name of PC (not wanting to offend C.A.I.R.) and Scott not wanting Muslims to demand his death for making a historically accurate film.
GulliverSwift asked: Why don't they do a movie about the Muslim armies who forced Islam on all the previously Christian countries in the Middle East, or a movie about the Muslim takeover of Spain, or the battle to take over Vienna?
Answer: Because Muslims would KILL them for telling the truth that is why.
72 posted on
05/07/2005 6:32:04 AM PDT by
Jmouse007
("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
To: GulliverSwift
Like I said yesterday in one of the post's, the History channel had a piece on History vs Hollywood on this movie and their conclusion was that it was mostly based on fiction, some truth and HELLywood! That says VOLUMES! I for one will not go see it! When a Muslim cleric comes out praising the movie you know right away who's side HELLywood is on! HELLywood=anti-christian HELLywood=Satan's tool!
To: GulliverSwift
This all started with trade, caravans from Arabia going up the trade routes to Jerusalem and Damascus and also the Mediterranean ports to the NW. The Arab caravans also ventured north to Baghdad and up to Khazaria and the "Silk Road". They went to Constantinople. These lands and trade centers were Jewish, Christian and Turk. The people in what is now Iraq was a mixture of all plus the Kurds. Persia's religion was Zoroastrianism.
Mohamed and his followers coveted these lands and their prosperity. Their religion was merely a tool to enable the Arab conquest of the trade routes. Greed and avarice is the underlying tenet of Mohamed's religion.
76 posted on
05/07/2005 11:42:35 AM PDT by
BIGLOOK
(I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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