FR EXCLUSIVE -- If Only David Schippers Knew About Clinton Perjury in Criminal Trial

phone conversation with David Schippers | 6-15-05 | Doug from Upland

[doug from upland]

This morning I had a startling conversation with David Schippers, the lifelong Democrat who prosecuted the impeachment of the disgraced William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. For several years, I thought he had certain information about Clinton perjury. I casually mentioned it during the conversation, and he was amazed with what I told him.

Here is the background. In July of 1996, Clinton testified on video in the criminal trial of bankers Herbie Branscum and Robert Hill. Here is the most important part of that testimony.

Q: Did you know that Mr. Hill told him, "We're taking money down to Governor Clinton because we want to make Herby look good for the highway commissioner's job?"

A: Did I know that the mayor said that Rob said that to him? Is that --

Q: Correct. Correct.

A: No, I didn't know that.

Q: Have you -- in making appointments, have you ever authorized anyone to go out and say to anybody, if you raise such and such amount of money, I'll appoint that person?

A: Absolutely not. But that's not the question you asked me. The previous question didn't imply that anyone said that.

During the impeachment investigation, I was able to reach the chief investigator for the House of Representatives. He was astounded at some of the information I was giving him and I was astounded that he had never heard some of it before. He was particularly interested in Clinton's testimony in the Branscum/Hill trial.

Dr. Paul Fick, author of THE DYSFUNCTIONAL PRESIDENT, has done several interviews with me for FreeRepublic. In doing research for his book, he discovered a witness and friend of Bill Clinton named Bert Dickey. Dickey really opened up to Fick and told him that he and seven other people had either purchased state commissions from Gov. Clinton for cash or helped launder the money.

I helped arrange a meeting and Fick flew to Washington D.C. to meet with the investigators. In addition, I e-mailed them a link to the complete transcript of Clinton's testimony. The investigators were shocked. They recognized that Clinton had committed perjury in a criminal trial.

In his video testimony, Clinton denied selling state commissions for cash. I know that Bert Dickey was interviewed by the FBI and that he named the other players. Why Starr would not follow up on the information remains a mystery.

In front of former trooper L.D. Brown, Clinton accepted $5,000 in cash to name someone to the police commission whom Brown deemed unqualified. Clinton's comment to Brown was, "Well, L.D., sometimes you've got to do bad things in order to do good things." Although I've not talked to Brown in several months, I am certain he would be prepared to meet with Ray and tell his story under oath.

You have probably never read about this in the WASHINGTON POST, NEW YORK TIMES, LOS ANGELES TIMES, SEATTLE POST INTELLIGENCER, CHICAGO SUN TIMES, HOUSTON CHRONICLE, etc. You have not seen it on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, or PBS.

Schippers does not know if it would have made a difference, but he was quite upset that he was never given the information. Perjury in a criminal trial is something he would have gone after relentlessly. We'll never know, but it might have turned out differently. Of course, we would have had to get rid of Trent Lott first.

[Ron in Acreage]

The laundry list of Clinton corruption is mind blowing.

[fooman]

and growing..

[Humidston]

Schippers stands out as one of the few Democrats I would trust implicitly. What character and integrity!

[Aroha]

Thanks, Oh Great Patriot.

For sure, Ron.

[doug from upland]

Although I've not talked to Brown in several months, I am certain he would be prepared to meet with Ray and tell his story under oath.
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Part of this was cut an pasted from an old story. I should have removed that sentence.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I became a news junky in June, 1950 when the radio interrupted a show with a bulletin that North Korea had invaded the south. The closest I came to party affiliation was when I pinned on a "I like Ike" button though I was too young to vote.

In other words, I've tried to keep up pretty much with events and I have never been close to being a Democrat. I vote Republican though not a Party member.

Here's what I believe. Mr. Schippers is a true, patriotic Democrat. A Democrat of old. Many rank and file Democrats are like Mr. Schippers.

The Democrat Party is no more. It has become a Rat Party infested and led by New Left radicals and the emotionally ill. Traitors to our sovereignty all.

The point is, many rank and file are on our (conservative, not necessarily Republcan) side but are more or less apolitical, IMO. We should acknowledge the difference between them and the Rats. IMO.

[CyberAnt]

I still don't think getting rid of Lott would have changed anything. The dems were not going to put their boy out of office - and they didn't care what he did. That's why the whole senate thing was a waste of time. I still don't see the logic of blaming Lott for the actions of the dems.

And .. just for the record .. I don't trust Lott at all.

[B.Bumbleberry]

Doug, Clinton could have been selling offices and still have answered the questions truthfully. Read what he said carefully, and you will see what I mean. It would have been pretty stupid of him to have authorized someone to go out and tell people he was selling offices, which is what the question put to him asked. I'm not excusing Clinton here, just making a technical legal point.

[doug from upland]

Q: Have you -- in making appointments, have you ever authorized anyone to go out and say to anybody, if you raise such and such amount of money, I'll appoint that person?

A: Absolutely not. But that's not the question you asked me. The previous question didn't imply that anyone said that.

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To this question, other witnesses would have said they were so authorized.