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To: Graybeard58
Here's the question: If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school?

Being a veteran public school marching-band person myself (about 15 years of my past life), there is a tangible "esprit de corps" that involves school spirit: representing ones school and playing/participating to one's best ability to represent that school. Same goes for school sports.

2 posted on 06/18/2005 8:19:43 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Here's the question: If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school?

Ummm...because public school education just generally sucks for about a hundred reasons?

6 posted on 06/18/2005 8:23:55 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

"Here's the question: If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school?"

I agree with you. You're either in or you're out. YOu can't really choose to keep your kids out of the public school, and then pick and choose which programs you want them to participate in. Why not get together with other home-schoolers and form your own band?


7 posted on 06/18/2005 8:25:20 AM PDT by Chiapet (Cthulhu for President: Why vote for a lesser evil?)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

"Here's the question: If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school?"

Uh... Because the education sucks?

What do I win?


10 posted on 06/18/2005 8:27:46 AM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
If she can't be in the band, or participate on other public school activities, then then her family should be refuned that percentage of her taxes that goes to public schools.

She's paying for it. It is hers.

17 posted on 06/18/2005 8:34:09 AM PDT by beavus (Hussein's war. Bush's response.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
This girl, as well as all home schooled kids, deserve to participate in extra-cirricular activities if they rightfully earn a spot in the activity/team.

Her parents pay school taxes and the district should not be able to legally deny her participation (taxation without representation). I hope her parents sue the pants off of this school district and WIN!

19 posted on 06/18/2005 8:34:47 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
The point is that this girl has been practicing with the 8th grade band she is is now and they are not letting her march in the parade because the next grade level up (9th grade) doesn't allow homeschooled kids to be in the band. This makes no sense. She isn't even enrolled in the 9th grade yet.

She is the lead chair and has been practicing all year with the pretense that she would march with the band...now, all of the sudden they tell her she can't.

Would this school tell another 8th grader who is in the band that they can't march in the last parade because they are moving to another town or going to the local Catholic High School? I think not!

22 posted on 06/18/2005 8:37:15 AM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Because we don't WANT them to have our kids all day. We don't want them to have that much input and influence. There's a big difference in participation in the school band and them being there ALL day.


26 posted on 06/18/2005 8:40:35 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

her parents pay school taxes too. in sports there are only so many slots and to make the cut means somebody else didn't, i've never heard of anybody being turned down cause the band was full... and i doubt that she would not play as good or better than anybody else so that's not an issue either


75 posted on 06/18/2005 9:48:48 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; Graybeard58

Udon't agree with your statement. Since we pay taxes to support the school, then we should be able to join any extra activities they have or give us our money back. Why should I pay for something I'm not allowed to use? Vouchers, vouchers, we want vouchers.


92 posted on 06/18/2005 10:18:05 AM PDT by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Frankly, I can't sympathize with someone who's opted out of a system but wants to "shop" its perks like a cafeteria. Otherwise, I'm quite supportive of homeschooling.


121 posted on 06/18/2005 11:01:17 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
"If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school? "

For one thing, they don't want them exposed to the drugs and sex in public schools now days. You wouldn't believe what public school kids do on road trips and between recitals.

167 posted on 06/18/2005 12:17:37 PM PDT by bayourod (HEADS UP to all politicians: Sunday is Juneteenth. Attend as many events as possible)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

How about the question is, If they pay taxes for the facilities, teachers, and everything else in thier district probably including the band instruments and uniforms, why can't thier daughter take part?

They have every right to participate.


199 posted on 06/18/2005 1:52:14 PM PDT by Stopislamnow (Three co-equal branches? Not anymore. Sig heil mein black robed tyrant!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
IS school spirit about a community in which one lives and learns or about a brick and mortar building?
268 posted on 06/19/2005 7:40:19 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

AS a current Public School Band Director - I have been fearing such an circumstance - but have thus far been lucky and have dodged the bullet.

The issue here is a touchy one. In the city of Conway, Arkansas, they have put together a community "home school" orchestra and band. It is supported by home school families and is there to provide just this sort of opportunity.

Keep one thing in mind - at least in my state, if the student isn't registered, the school doesn't receive funding for that student - so the taxpayer reasoning isn't going to fly. Yes, those parents still pay taxes - but they aren't going to the school (property taxes that go directly to schools may be an exception). So what to do?

From my personal and professional point of view - if the homeschooled child wants to participate and fulfills all requirements to do so (attendance to all rehearsals and performances), then more power to them. THe problem comes from most state's interscholastic governing bodies - this applies to athletics as well as musical organizations and the rules for participation.

As the rules currently stand here in Arkansas (local districts may have more strict rules)- I can allow a homeschool child to participate in all activities of my band program EXCEPT marching and concert contests/competitions, region and state honor band auditions, solo& Ensemble festivals, etc. I could let them march at the Friday night football games, parades (if non-competitive), and concerts.

Local districts, though, are not likely to play along (no pun intended) though.


297 posted on 06/19/2005 6:09:36 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Here's the question: If parents want their kids involved in school-based activities, why not send them to the school?

Because that would mean exposing them to people with attitudes like yours.

337 posted on 06/20/2005 9:36:06 AM PDT by Protagoras (I’ve had all I can stands and I can’t stands no more.....Popeye)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

They want their cake and to eat it too. Eeevil public schools apparently are not totally eeevil.


338 posted on 06/20/2005 9:36:07 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Once upon a time, local fire departments fielded marching bands. I wish there were more community bands out there -- it's hard to justify the purchase of a BBb bass for one's own amusement. (make that brass bands -- do you recall that scene in Woody ALlen's movie "Take the money and run" where he performs cello with a marching band?) ;)


345 posted on 06/20/2005 12:02:11 PM PDT by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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