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Iran and Iraq to sign military deal
Aljazeera.net ^ | July 2005

Posted on 07/07/2005 7:36:26 AM PDT by Grendel9

Thursday 07 July 2005, 13:10 Makka Time, 10:10 GMT

Iraq's defence minister (R) meeting Iran's president [picture]

Former foes Iran and Iraq have said they will sign a military cooperation agreement that will include Iranian help in training Iraq's armed forces.

The agreement marks a considerable advance in relations between the two countries that fought a bitter 1980-1988 war and comes despite repeated US accusations that Iran has undermined security in Iraq since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003.

"It's a new chapter in our relations with Iraq. We will start wide defence cooperation," Iranian Defence Minister Admiral Ali Shamkhani told a joint news conference with visiting Iraqi counterpart Sadoun al-Dulaimi.

"We're going to form some committees which will be involved in mine clearance, identifying those missing from the war and also ... to help train, rebuild and modernise the Iraqi army," Shamkhani added.

Iran last year offered to train Iraqi border guards, but Baghdad declined the offer.

US and Iraqi officials have often accused Iran of stirring up instability in Iraq. Tehran denies meddling in Iraq or helping, arming or letting foreign fighters cross its borders.

"Nobody can dictate to Iraq its relations with other countries"

Sadoun al-Dulaimi, Iraqi defence minister

Asked about possible US opposition to Iran-Iraq military cooperation, Shamkhani said: "No one can prevent us from reaching an agreement."

Iraq's al-Dulaimi echoed Shamkhani's comments.

"Nobody can dictate to Iraq its relations with other countries," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aldulaimi; iran; iraq
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I wonder if this is the culmination of those "meetings of the military with the enemy forces" that Rumsfeldt was asked about over a week ago.
1 posted on 07/07/2005 7:36:27 AM PDT by Grendel9
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I don't like this at all.


2 posted on 07/07/2005 7:37:09 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Grendel9

do you have a link for this?


3 posted on 07/07/2005 7:37:15 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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"I wonder if this is the culmination of those "meetings of the military with the enemy forces" that Rumsfeldt was asked about over a week ago."

No, those were Sunni forces


4 posted on 07/07/2005 7:37:24 AM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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There isn't anyone who views this as a postive development, right?


5 posted on 07/07/2005 7:37:50 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: Grendel9

No those meetings were between Iraqi insurgents and the Coalition. Those meetings did not include foreign fighters.


6 posted on 07/07/2005 7:38:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A3B7E6C5-B473-4779-8402-8D48A7299A35.htm


7 posted on 07/07/2005 7:38:21 AM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: Pat The Postman

Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies even closer. - Sun Tzu


9 posted on 07/07/2005 7:41:11 AM PDT by Camerican (Fools learn from their mistakes. Wisemen learn from other people's mistakes - Otto Von Bismark)
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Iran to train Iraqi military?

What the f*ck do they have to teach them? How to storm an embassy? Hostage abuse 101 and 102? Intro to pray n spray? Transportation and terrorism?

Much more preferable for them to be at each other's throats.


10 posted on 07/07/2005 7:41:36 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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The demarcation lines for the Iraqi civil war are being established.


11 posted on 07/07/2005 7:46:55 AM PDT by Ranger
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"There isn't anyone who views this as a positive development, right?"

I do. If Iran is an ally of Iraq, they will be more reticent in sending terrorists in. The more they help Iraq stand up, the sooner we can stand down.

I am also in favor of the EU and UN helping out as well.
12 posted on 07/07/2005 7:47:06 AM PDT by bnelson44 (A proud parent of a tanker!)
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A shia Iraq and a shia Iran.


13 posted on 07/07/2005 7:50:15 AM PDT by Srirangan
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I dunno. On the one hand, a free Iraq could be an influence/ally to Iranians who also want the same freedom, providing the two come in contact with each other; on the other, is Iraq strong enough to repel Iran's force of will?

One of the goals was for Iraq to influence the region, was it not? I suppose we'll just have to wait and see, as it's going to happen anyway.


14 posted on 07/07/2005 7:52:27 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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"There isn't anyone who views this as a postive development, right?"

Sort of. I can see it going either way. It's their country and they can court anyone they like to IMO. They have a democracy in place and it's up to their own people to use it. Looks like the Representatives of the Iraqi People want to talk with Iran. Who are we to say otherwise?

Also, the folks over in Iraq aren't complete idiots. They know our position on Iran and it's sort of difficult to get people who have hated Iran for the past few generations to suddenly like them. This is just another case of "You scratch my back, I'll scratch your back" Imagine that, Iraq trading with it's neighbors. Who would have thunk that! I certainly didn't see it coming.
15 posted on 07/07/2005 7:52:31 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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Agreed.

Allegiances are changed more often than underwear in that part of the world. That's why we must get them hooked on personal liberty, democracy and capitalism.

16 posted on 07/07/2005 7:53:04 AM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: Pat The Postman

Weren't some folks "hooked on phonics" a while back?


18 posted on 07/07/2005 7:59:53 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Grendel9

al brazeera?


19 posted on 07/07/2005 8:01:23 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Does the Red Crescent have falafel dollies?)
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To: Grendel9

I have always felt that as soon as Iraq can get on it's feet they will turn on the US. If blood is thicker than water, then this Muslim culture is thicker than blood.


20 posted on 07/07/2005 8:06:56 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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