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1 posted on 07/07/2005 12:19:07 PM PDT by Pokey78
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pre-ping bump. ;^)


2 posted on 07/07/2005 12:20:01 PM PDT by headsonpikes ("The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government.")
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Steyn ping!


3 posted on 07/07/2005 12:20:34 PM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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I love Steyn's stuff, but if he thinks Bush saying that would have altered the multi-cult landscape, he's dreaming. Those of us who agree with the sentiment are already fighting the multi-cult scourge; those who need to change would dismiss such a position as "white male fear of other voices" or whatever.


4 posted on 07/07/2005 12:21:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (6/30/05 budget deficit down http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0620/p17s01-cogn.html)
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Thanks Pokey!

For those interested, you can fight this monstrosity of a memorial at

www.takebackthememorial.com

8 posted on 07/07/2005 12:32:47 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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Steyn is right, we might be further along had Bush taken Ann Coulter's advice:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Make no mistake, this is not just a war against terror, this is a war for the survival of Western Civilization.
9 posted on 07/07/2005 12:34:33 PM PDT by markedman (Lay me down to a watery grave)
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Greetings Pokey.....I sincerely hope you are doing well. Thought I'd post something here that was provided by an old FRiend, tictoc, who has all but disappeared from this forum. I miss him greatly at FR because he was very well-read on the mideast and especially Israel. He was not the author of this, but I love it. It seems to fit here...... at least about the inferior Arab culture. As for those in the West.......that's another matter.

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Let’s be realistic. I am not a friend of enemies of the United Sates. But despite the pressure some of you feel from me, I am not a racist. A racist is not someone who simply criticizes you. Racism is a derogatory view of your essential nature as human beings, someone who believes that you are inferior by birth, by genetics. Usually a classic racist discriminates by skin color. I do not fit the definition.

And Arab is a full human being physically and spiritually. I see no division in being Arab and being the complete equal of myself or anyone else in the world.

HOWEVER,Arab culture does have major limitations which I have noted. Culture is not race. I can regard your culture as inferor to my own and you are a fool if you think that qualifies me as racist. It just shows you don’t know how to think, that your thinking is emotional and sloppy. That is not a racist characteristic, it is a cultural characteristic.

A sloppy mind is your fault or your cultures fault, it is not dependent on your race at all.

Just because I regard you as prone to be sloppy thinkers and ineffective fantasizing Arabs, has nothing to do with your race. Your culture makes you sloppy, your culture makes you fantasizers who can’t form solid analytical images of the real world as it actually exists.

You have a mind set which is due to your culture. This mindset is not racial it is cultural. Your culture has conditioned you to hate the Jews. This is inferior,patently so, obviously so and it reveals you are driven by Jealousy of the Jews, envy of the Jews, and FEAR of the Jews.

You are jealous and envious and piss smelling sweat afraid of the Jews because subconsciously you see that the Jews have succeeded in the same environment you have and that they are prosperous and efficient while your own societies are collapsing failures.

You are economically and socially inferior to the Jews.. You hate the Jews because they make you look stupid. You are inferior to them and their economies are superior to yours. Their armies are superior to yours. They are FORTY times more powerful than all of you put together and they are one percent of your size. You ARE inferior and it hurts. You hate their talent and their success. You are standing there right next to them on the same ground with the same resources and you look like a pile of Arab crap. You hate them because they are better than you and their success shows the differences between their culture, their values, and you and yours.

And this is just one small factor. Your religion is based on the Koran and its image of reality has produced what you are.. Your values are based on Islam. Your values have produced your poverty and your complete inability to claim any COMPETENCE in the real world. There isn’t a single Moslem country that doesn’t slobber all over itself like a retard when confronted by the 21st century.

You want to “confront” the West, you want to have your “Greatness” recognized. You are a feeble snarl of oppressive dictatorships with illiteracy and fear and ignorance as your heritage.

The West feels SORRY FOR YOU. The only dependable feeling anyone has for an Arab is pity. And that isn’t when we find you murdering children for money like a Shaheed. How much money was Saddam paying for dead Moslem children with bombs strapped to their guts?

You have a rub-rump wank sucking pervert like Arafat who is a duplicitous Thug as a role model. Show me an Arab hero. You don’t have a single individual in your whole culture today who inspires anyone with anything except disgust and contempt and pity.

You are impotent people. It is not your race. It is your culture. Your values produce failure. Your entire reality is an escape from responsibility and a fleeing from achievement.

Don’t tell me about your financial future either. Your veneer of modernity is about a millimeter thick. It can vanish as soon as the West doesn’t supply you with spare parts or repair people.

You didn’t invent it and you can’t fix it. You are a nutless pointless ghosttown waiting to happen society.

And acting like you are our equals has nothing to do with your race or mine…it has everything to do with the fact that your culture is totally incompetent.

You are fifty to a hundred years behind the West. Politically you are back in the 1930’s Technologically you are in the fourteenth century and you don’t produce anything modern. You buy our culture and think that entitles you to some equality. You are parasites on our abilities.

Socially and economically you are waiting to die. You seek to challenge the values of the West, you attacked the United States, you want nothing more than to have atomic weapons so we will respect you.

You might as well stick a modern pistol in your mouth and pull the trigger if you think that we will ever allow you to have atomic weapons. We will go to war with the first Islamic nation which has an atomic we don’t control. It is a sure guarantee of a certain war. You are not fit to stand beside us as equals.

The Jews are, but you aren’t.

The Jews are like us, they are also different from us, but all things considered thay are our kind…and you aren’t. You are Arabs and you produce nothing of any value..not politically, or socially, or economically, or philosophically.

You are a dead society with dead values. That isn’t a racist statement. Its an autopsy of your culture. And I don't hate you, I just don't want you to rot in my gutter so I have to smell it. Go someplace else to die.

Lando

16 posted on 07/07/2005 12:43:53 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln (How many liberals does it take to win a war?)
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We elected a President, not a friggn shrink!~}


18 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:26 PM PDT by funkywbr
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"Now feel the force of the gale that’s hit you’ — that light breeze was mainly one man’s hot air. Live 8 is elites speaking to elites — knighted rockers to heads of government — because that’s the level at which celebrities are comfortable interacting. Indeed, in its malign progress from leftist activists to impressionable celebrities to doting media to squishy politicians, it’s a perfect paradigm of how the most comprehensively failed Sixties nostrums get continuously recycled as ‘revolutionary’ ‘popular’ ‘idealism’."




He has clear eyed vision and fortunately for all of us, he has the moxy to take a position. His view shakes things up a bit.


19 posted on 07/07/2005 12:53:44 PM PDT by Countyline
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It was Carl Rove that said that Democrats wanted to fight 9/11 in the courts and with therapy, vs. Bush took the fight right to the enemy.
Carl got blasted by Democrats and their MSM allies.
U.S. liberals, ask Tony Blair if he needs your help.
Or better yet, offer support anyplace as a preventive matter.


22 posted on 07/07/2005 1:19:50 PM PDT by hermgem
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Steyn BTTT

Live8 may have been a failure but it got Geldof a nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize. Good grief!


28 posted on 07/07/2005 1:43:45 PM PDT by hattend (Alaska....in a time warp all it's own!)
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"Three years on, it seems even clearer that this was Bush’s biggest immediate lapse in an otherwise clear-sighted understanding of what was at stake."

That and not closing the borders!


31 posted on 07/07/2005 1:59:59 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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ping for later read


32 posted on 07/07/2005 2:04:52 PM PDT by rampage8
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings

Ping


34 posted on 07/07/2005 2:51:27 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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bookmark


36 posted on 07/07/2005 4:05:59 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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In the summer of 2002 I wrote in this space that the President had failed to seize the moment: ‘George W. Bush had a rare opportunity after September 11.

God, had that been the only failure.

The messianic worship here notwithstanding, he will go down in history as the dunderhead that he is.

38 posted on 07/07/2005 4:38:47 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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The post-9/11 world is not primarily a war between civilisations — the West vs Islam — but a war within one civilisation: ours. It’s a long existential struggle between those who believe that Western values — or, to be more precise, the values of the English-speaking world — are one of the great blessings of this world and those ‘counter-tribalists’ (in John O’Sullivan’s phrase) who believe those values are the source of most of the world’s ills. The latter are a relatively small group but their numbers are bolstered by legions so immersed in the sappy therapeutic culture of the age that they’ve been persuaded that the best way to ‘celebrate diversity’ is to abase oneself before moral relativism and non-judgmentalism. The Islamists are merely the lucky beneficiaries of this syndrome. It’s hard to fight a war in a culture that recoils from the very concept of an opposing side: there are no enemies, just friends whose grievances we haven’t yet accommodated.

WOW Mark went for the juggler on this one! I made the same argument today in my lame way.

39 posted on 07/07/2005 5:38:40 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Who cares about the ‘vital impulses’ of the ‘arts’? When did Ground Zero become just another outpost for lame provocations by publicly funded ‘artists’? If that’s your bag, there’s a zillion places in town. Needless to say, that’s not how the alleged artists feel, their general line boiling down to: but enough about the 3,000 dead — let’s talk about me.

Go Mark Go! home run! bases loaded.

This is the way I think in My mind and the natterring naynobs just leave me shaking my head

40 posted on 07/07/2005 5:47:25 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Thanks for not "Quiding" this important piece.
bump


45 posted on 07/08/2005 7:08:05 AM PDT by jokar (On line data base http://www.trackingthethreat.com/db/index.htm)
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So in different ways, at Ground Zero and in Hyde Park, we’ve taken four years to come back to where we were on 10 September 2001.

Yeah. And maybe thirty years back to the glory days of the anti-war '70s!

51 posted on 07/08/2005 4:14:39 PM PDT by Gritty ("It’s hard to fight a war in a culture that recoils from the concept of an opposing side-Mark Steyn)
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