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Police Hold Men in Hudson Raft
New York Times ^ | 7/12/05 | unstated

Posted on 07/12/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins

Two men seen taking pictures of the George Washington Bridge from an inflatable raft in the Hudson River yesterday afternoon were taken into custody by the police when they came ashore.

The police said last night that no arrests had been made, but Sgt. Brian Mullen of the 34th Precinct said that charges against the men, who were not identified, were pending. One possible charge was unauthorized use of the raft in the wrong place, he said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: boat; bridgeplot; bridgeplots; cameraincident; cameraincidents; gwashingtonbridge; hudsonriver; inflatableboat; inflatableraft; isolatedincident; isolatedincidents; raft; rafters; yemeni; yemenis; zodiac
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When CBS News covered this on the 11:00 PM news yesterday they stated that the men were Yemeni.
1 posted on 07/12/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

Thanks for the post..Glad they could hold them..The FR site is sooo slowww that I did not click on the article...


2 posted on 07/12/2005 9:47:24 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

The rafting is great and the water is clean under the GW...


3 posted on 07/12/2005 9:47:36 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Link to last night's thread on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440942/posts

Would be in line with prior intelligence info. of being on the lookout for an aquatic attack.

4 posted on 07/12/2005 9:48:43 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
What time they were rafting has also been called into question. It hasn't been stated. Conjecture is that they may have been rafting at night. Also the timing of it hitting the tv news as just breaking, 11:00 PM EST would suggest this.
5 posted on 07/12/2005 9:54:12 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

they should rightly be held as enemy combatants - but the left and the media has won that part of the war, stigmatizing use of such measures which are proper in this case, and I doubt the administration will do it.

hold them, question them, search their homes, their computers - if they can't come up with some plausible explanation why they were photographing the bridge from a raft - look into every aspect of their lives.


6 posted on 07/12/2005 9:57:48 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Two Yemeni men in a raft, photographing a bridge. Boy am I profiling like hell. These guys need to be interogated to the max. Agter 9/11, Madrid and Boston we just can not aford to be the nice guys any longer.


7 posted on 07/12/2005 10:12:53 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: oceanview
Exactly.

Notice that the NY Times article doesn't even state that they were Yemeni.

This all may change if the #30 bus bomber turns out to have been a released Guatanamo detainee as reported by the Northeast Intelligence Network.

If true both the Bush admin. and the Democrats may want to keep this under wraps, though it may not be true.

Sad that it takes things like this to possibly turn it around.

In a war on terror there is little room for worrying about "racial profiling".

I am sure those on Flight 93 didn't worry about it.

100% of the 9/11 terrorists were of Middle Eastern descent.

Some leftist media traitors don't even want us to use the word terrorist, they may prefer that we call them freedom fighters.

Left is "see no evil" blind.

Moral relativism, few of them can answer questions about what is right and wrong.

8 posted on 07/12/2005 10:15:15 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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Re stated the men were Yemeni.

I used GOOGLE and hit Yemeni Terrorism. I learned that it is a "poor Muslim country" and is a haven for Al Qaeda. I believe that this is almost certainly " a war of nerves".

Not long after 9/11, at the International border- Sault Ste Marie Michigan, some men of "middle eastern appearance" were taking videos of the International Bridge and the huge locking system. The local police were( so it was claimed) informed by customs officials. Whatever the rights of it, the men may have got a pass. The FBI were brought in.

Later the men were identified from Dearborn, Michigan. You can imagine, though panic did not ensue,the consternation of folks. Dearborn is the largest Arabic community in America. It was said that "nothing could be done under the existing laws". A "war of nerves"- they must not win.

9 posted on 07/12/2005 10:59:57 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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> Notice that the NY Times article doesn't even state that they were Yemeni.

Well, it does disclose the following in the 3rd graph, but Yemeni is ntl left out:

"...the men, who the police said appeared to be of Middle Eastern descent, were taking pictures near the bridge."

As if maybe these guys were American citizens out for a nice boat ride...


10 posted on 07/12/2005 11:03:56 AM PDT by cloud8
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While I'm all in favor of interrogating these guys, I am shocked to learn that "...unauthorized use of raft in the wrong place" is a criminal statute/City ordinance in New York (state or city). Is this perhaps distinct from mere unauthorized use of raft in the right place, or authorized use in the wrong place?


11 posted on 07/12/2005 11:09:57 AM PDT by Dirty_Water
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To: Dirty_Water

You can't be within 25 yards of any bridge "pier or abutment"


13 posted on 07/12/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by hedgie
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To: cloud8

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly was on Fox & Friends this AM and said they found no evidence that these guys were taking pictures and think he said they were released. I seem to remember this happening once before...quite a while ago....men were seen at night in a raft at the foot of a NY bridge (can't remember which bridge..maybe Brooklyn)but men eluded police at that time.


14 posted on 07/12/2005 11:22:03 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
This all may change if the #30 bus bomber turns out to have been a released Guatanamo detainee as reported by the Northeast Intelligence Network.

The NYT will report that he was driven to terrorism by the inhumane conditions at Guatanamo

15 posted on 07/12/2005 11:25:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

What? The Circle Line wasn't running?

16 posted on 07/12/2005 11:26:20 AM PDT by Oratam (Distinctness in Persons, Oneness in Essence, Equality in Majesty)
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To: Peter Libra

in fact, alot of these incidents are probes into our system - these guys may be full blown terrorists, they may just be "jihadi wanna-bes" out for a laugh.

but what is shows us is that the criminal justice system cannot be used to defend against these guys. if it is, we lose. The Brits are going to learn this the hard way, they are going to be hit again unless they stop treating the london bombings as "crimes".


17 posted on 07/12/2005 11:33:37 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: RaceBannon; Cindy

Camera Incident ping


18 posted on 07/12/2005 11:39:51 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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"Two Yemeni men in a raft, photographing a bridge. Boy am I profiling like hell."

You are obviously an evil conservative. Why not put some flowers in your hair and give peace a chance. (sarcasm)

19 posted on 07/12/2005 11:47:14 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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> ... they found no evidence that these guys were taking pictures

The evidence is safe in Davy Jones's locker.

> they were released

Pity.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 11:47:18 AM PDT by cloud8
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