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To: manwiththehands
It's very clear that Bush has a popularity problem, Freeper denial notwithstanding.

That compromises his ability to lead, and is not a good thing.

If Freepers think that it's a better strategy to dismiss the next years worth of polls, rather than improve the President's (and the GOP's) stature, they are walking into a bloodletting in 2006.

The last time the polls were all wrong, the GOP lost ground in both the house and senate in 1998, when the american people (for better or worse) backed Clinton in the impeachment situation.

Get with it, folks.
10 posted on 11/04/2005 10:25:46 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: HitmanNY

I agree. All the polls are showing Bush has lost all the Democrats (must be doing something right!), most of the independents (not a good thing, because he split them with Kerry last year, but they're unlikely to vote anyway in '06) and a small but growing share of Republicans (this worries me.) That's the state of play. There are several polls showing Bush with ratings in the high 30s, and while I think the 35% is certainly an outlier, it does us no good to pretend this isn't real.

How Bush addresses these numbers is up to him. That's the question. I think he needs to keep us in mind, forget the Democrats, and not waste time on independents who don't like the Democrats either.


17 posted on 11/04/2005 10:31:31 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HitmanNY
You are moving from one thread to another spreading the same lame argument of doom and gloom. Everytime I see you making these comments about polls I will give you the same answer:

Polls of adults are worthless and polls of adults with such a bias toward Democrats or Democrats leaning voters only belong to in the trash can.

The only valid polls are the ones of "likely voters" with the following breakup: 35% R, 35% D, 30% I. Also in order to the polls to be valid the 30% of independents should be equally divided between Red counties and Blue counties and not overwhelmingly picked from blue counties as the liberal media do because a lot of bias in the polls occurs with the selection of independents. Once you get me a poll like this then I will consider it as serious.

18 posted on 11/04/2005 10:34:11 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: HitmanNY

Take your nervous nelly handwringing somewhere else. These are polls are biased MSM lies.


19 posted on 11/04/2005 10:34:18 AM PST by balch3
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To: HitmanNY

fake polls dont equal real voters ask kerry and those exit polls


35 posted on 11/04/2005 10:50:09 AM PST by italianquaker (Bush Derangement syndrome coming to a theatre near you)
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To: HitmanNY

Please read post seven. When CBS uses a poll that has a sample of only 24% Republicans, the value of the poll is similar to the value of Dan Rather's forged documents.

While your main point is that Bush's poll numbers are low, the bigger question is....with this kind of treatment by our media, should you have expected anything else.

A large portion of the President's poor numbers, besides totally rigged poll result, is the fact that he gets absolutely the worst treatment by the press of any public figure I have ever seen. The have absolutely gone to the dark side and care not for their credibility among those that know the truth. Their only goal is to convince the morons that pay little attention how awful GW Bush is.

It is a pitiful, disgraceful, scandalous performance by our
traditional media.

PresidentFelon


92 posted on 11/04/2005 1:00:56 PM PST by PresidentFelon (Reuters Reporter Adam Entous beats his mother)
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