To: varyouga
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice.
If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family.
I really don't see the problem otherwise.
To: KateatRFM
I can understand major disorders where a child has no possibility of surviving birth or a child that will be born without a brain. Something on that level may be OK.
But the article lists many "problems" that are livable or treatable most of the time. This slippery slope will lead us to screen for sex, personalities, intelligence and physical structure.
17 posted on
11/12/2005 3:25:44 PM PST by
varyouga
(Reformed Kerry voter ( I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice. That kind of clear thinking isn't allowed on FreeRepublic after the invasion of the ShaivoNuts. Get ready to be blasted.
18 posted on
11/12/2005 3:32:08 PM PST by
bukkdems
("My aunt was very frugal" - Benon Savon)
To: KateatRFM; Bahbah; Liz; Calpernia; little jeremiah; NYer; Alouette
Kate, you seem to peg yourself in the 'fiscal conservative' but 'socially progressive' categories. May I point out the logical conclusion of your premises?
I note you acknowledge the procreation as a child.
You've framed keeping 'something damaged' alive as a fiscal responsibility rather than a moral imperative.
You've just subjected all humanity to a Kelo ruling, fiscal eminent domain.
Do you realize this?
19 posted on
11/12/2005 3:35:40 PM PST by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
To: KateatRFM
If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family. I really don't see the problem otherwise. So you agree with abortion. How about euthanasia for those born with undetected medical problems? Which ones, according to your ethic, are acceptable or should all diseased infants be terminated?
22 posted on
11/12/2005 3:43:51 PM PST by
NYer
(“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
To: KateatRFM
All right, now what are we going to do with babies who develop a disease that WASN'T diagnosed prior to birth? Maybe the test missed it, or maybe the parents decided not to get the tests because then they would have had to abort the child. The people who felt forced to abort their baby or decided to keep the baby and find the money somewhere are going to cry, "Unfair!" when parents who didn't bother to get the tests are allowed to get insurance for THEIR "damaged child".
And how about folks who are injured in an accident or by communicable disease, or old folks suffering from dementia, congestive heart failure, or end stage kidney disease? Don't they also "drain the public purse"?
If you deny insurance coverage for "a damaged child" (horrible term! Sounds like "unworthy of life") then those cases are next.
Hope you see the slippery slope you just stepped out on.
30 posted on
11/12/2005 4:22:48 PM PST by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: KateatRFM
If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family. How do you define a damanged child? Is it a child with Down Syndrome, Autism, or other learning disabilities? Is it a child that has problems with its organs (I read of a woman who aborted a child with a small bladder)? Is it a child who will be asthmatic? Or maybe diabetic? Maybe with genetic testing we will know who will have cancer at the age of 45 and maybe those people should be eliminated before birth and before they put a strain on medical insurance and social services? How do you decide what a damaged child is and when the parents should take care of it themselves? WHO draws that line and where does it end?
To: KateatRFM
Defective is a more elegant term.
37 posted on
11/12/2005 4:29:55 PM PST by
Old Professer
(Fix the problem, not the blame!)
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child... How would you define "damaged"? Is this child "damaged"?
How about this one?
Or perhaps my wife, who was born deaf, blind in one eye, and with musculoskeletal deformities? Would she be allowed to be born, or is she a burden on society?
40 posted on
11/12/2005 4:35:15 PM PST by
COBOL2Java
(The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
To: KateatRFM
"I really don't see the problem otherwise."
Really? Using your logic, old folks who are a burden ought to be "put to sleep", right?
47 posted on
11/12/2005 4:40:46 PM PST by
narses
(St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
To: KateatRFM
You're advocating then for aborting children who are disabled. there is no other word for it. I don't think I need to be blessed for raising a child with a disability; - I and my family are the ones who are blessed. Every day I am grateful for having the opportunity to know her and to know other kids like her that essentially make the world a sunnier place. Their smallest triumph is the biggest to those who raise them.
54 posted on
11/12/2005 4:59:20 PM PST by
merry10
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice. If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family. I really don't see the problem otherwise. It is believed that Chopin suffered and died of cystic fibrosis Death and Funeral
61 posted on
11/12/2005 5:54:50 PM PST by
Aquamarine
(Colossians 1:27)
To: KateatRFM
"I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice."
Are you for real?
If YOU ever become "damaged", be sure that you do not use insurance or welfare or otherwise drain the public purse to support your choice to go on living.
64 posted on
11/12/2005 6:17:02 PM PST by
Reddy
To: KateatRFM; bukkdems
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice.Translation: (Even CLEARER thinking)
"You can keep your brainless pet; but the rest of us would have offed the little bugger!"
68 posted on
11/12/2005 7:50:37 PM PST by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: KateatRFM
If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself
Define "Damaged"?
72 posted on
11/12/2005 8:07:51 PM PST by
VxH
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise Do you have a problem with killing off the elderly and the unemployed or anyone else who doesn't meet your economic criteria?
75 posted on
11/12/2005 8:33:01 PM PST by
Alouette
(Gaza: Too small to be a country, too large to be an insane asylum (thanx: Pettigru).)
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice. If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family.
Here's the way I see it: As a society, we make a moral judgment to value and protect life. This is a good thing, as it protects the individual. Part of valuing life is valuing the most vulnerable. We say that every human being has the ability to contribute something, even if they can only do so through their very existence. If we, as a group, say that we will not protect, comfort and nourish the weak, we devalue human life.
Once we devalue the unborn, we devalue the handicapped, then we devalue the old, finally the very young and those who are simply stupid.
Saying that only those handicapped who's families can afford to care for them are worthy of life devalues life and devalues us all.
The problem comes when we extend our protection to those who are NOT weak. We encourage weakness in those who would be strong.
77 posted on
11/12/2005 10:50:28 PM PST by
Marie
(Stop childhood obesity! Give em' Marlboros, not milkshakes!)
To: KateatRFM
I can't see the problem with deciding whether or not to give birth to a damaged child, except that if you decide knowingly to do so, you ought not to get insurance or welfare or otherwise be allowed to drain the public purse to support that choice.
If you choose to bear a damaged child and you can take care of it yourself, God bless you for it and more power to you and your family.
I really don't see the problem otherwise.
Amazing! No doubt the chairman of the ethics department at our local university.
93 posted on
11/14/2005 4:33:27 AM PST by
stocksthatgoup
(Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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