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This has the potential to be an amazing discovery!
1 posted on 12/22/2005 6:01:21 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping!


2 posted on 12/22/2005 6:01:52 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Not surprising really.....Christianity reached India well before it reached Rome and Europe. China is next to India and I am not very surprised at this discovery.


3 posted on 12/22/2005 6:04:08 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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Wow, if he's correct, what a new perspective on early Christianity!


4 posted on 12/22/2005 6:05:27 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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World history could be rewritten

Too late.

5 posted on 12/22/2005 6:07:11 PM PST by socal_parrot (Fröliche Weinachten)
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To: wagglebee

http://members.tripod.com/~Berchmans/apostle.html

The testimonies of Eusebius (early 4th cent.) and St. Jerome (342-420 A.D.) about the mission of Pantaenus, a Christian philosopher sent by bishop Demetrius of Alexandria, "to preach Christ to the Brahmins and to the philosophers of India" in A.D. 190 affirms the tradition. The testimonies of the Fathers of the Church like St. Ephrem (306-373 A.D.), St. Gregory of Nazianze (324-390 A.D.), St. Ambrose (333-397 A.D.), St. Jerome, St. Gregory of Tours (6th cent.) and Isidore of Seville (7th cent.) are also notable. In various ways, they speak about the apostolate of St. Thomas, about the Christians of India, and about the priestly succession there. This is also attested to by several ecclesiastical calendars, martyrologies and other liturgical books of the Coptic, Greek, Latin and Mesopotamian Churches.


6 posted on 12/22/2005 6:07:29 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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This stone carving SURE looks like the typical nativity scene....on the far left side.
It would be one of the three pictures one would depict of the life of Jesus: His birth, His crucifixtion and His ascension into heaven.
WHAT an amazing discovery. I hope the Chinese don't "bury" it.

7 posted on 12/22/2005 6:14:44 PM PST by starfish923 ( Socratesn-- It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: wagglebee

Bump.


8 posted on 12/22/2005 6:26:57 PM PST by Paul Ross (My idea of American policy toward the Soviet Union is simple...It is this, 'We win and they lose.')
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To: wagglebee

ping


9 posted on 12/22/2005 6:50:55 PM PST by ocr1
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ping


10 posted on 12/22/2005 6:53:39 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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I remember reading a book in the 80's about the Bible and the Chinese language. The Chinese characters are very old. Take the word WEST. The Chinese character for that word are made up of the charcters that make the words "8 people in a boat" and the character for "perfection" is made up of the characters that are the words "lamb on a tree." The Chinese character for PARADISE is made of the charcters "2 people in a garden." I forget the name of the book, but it was a two word title with the second word being Genesis.


11 posted on 12/22/2005 6:59:46 PM PST by feedback doctor (Socialism, the opiate of liberals)
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To: wagglebee

Amazing it is.

Merry Christmas.


12 posted on 12/22/2005 7:01:57 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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(I'm sorry, but somebody had to do it.)

13 posted on 12/22/2005 7:03:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Ping.


14 posted on 12/22/2005 7:13:46 PM PST by Fedora
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bttt


15 posted on 12/22/2005 7:14:16 PM PST by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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The Wise men were supposedly from the East. Where from, we're not certain. Could have been Asia. Returning home, they prolly wrote down or relayed their experiences to one who recorded them.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 7:20:57 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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The Nestorians were known to have been involved in the Silk trade in the 550AD time period -- likely earlier. Much of their history has been wiped out by the spread of Islam through the old heartland of Assyria. This could be very exciting and not prohibitively unlikely considering the trade routes.
18 posted on 12/22/2005 7:31:10 PM PST by JimSEA (America cannot have an exit strategy from the world.)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the post. Quite interesting. Like most I only knew about him getting to parts of India.


19 posted on 12/22/2005 7:32:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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Christian Designs Found In Tombstones Of Eastern Han Dynasty

"Further studies showed that some of these engravings were made in 86 A.D., or the third year under the reign of "Yuanhe" of Eastern Han Dynasty, 550 years earlier than the world accepted time of Christianity's entrance into China."

21 posted on 12/22/2005 7:43:23 PM PST by blam
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I'd like to see all the pictures in greater detail, but this sounds pretty persuasive.

St. Thomas's journey to India has quite a lot of support, and it's not improbable that he managed to continue his missionary journey to China.

Christianity has been growing rapidly in China, despite the best efforts of the Communist leadership to put a lid on it. This could have a very positive effect on that, because it reinforces the idea that Christianity is not just a colonialist imposition on the East, but an ancient tradition.

The continued growth of Christianity in Africa and Asia is not only good in itself, but is one of the few things that might challenge and ameliorate the challenges to the West represented by Islam and Communist China.


22 posted on 12/22/2005 7:45:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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If Wang is correct, that is amazing!!

If Wang's suspicions are right, the time of Christianity's arrival in China could be as early as the end of the 1st century, more than 500 years before the widely recognized date.

Bear in mind that Christianity arrived in Ireland shortly before Saint Patrick, Palladius arrived two years before him!

23 posted on 12/22/2005 7:46:16 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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