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"Stupid in America" airs tonight.
1 posted on 01/13/2006 3:34:44 AM PST by JTN
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2 posted on 01/13/2006 3:35:03 AM PST by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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Stupid in America -- Why your kids are probably dumber than Belgians

American parents bear a lot of the blame. Many have bought into the idea that self-esteem is somehow unrelated to self-respect, and have emphasized the former rather than the latter in rearing their kids. That true self-esteem can arise only out of self-respect, and that self-respect can arise only out of hard work and self-discipline, are facts that would appear to have escaped their notice.

So much the worse for us and our posterity...

4 posted on 01/13/2006 3:40:35 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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On the other hand, do we really want to emulate Belgium? I've heard many times about how European students out perform American students in pretty much every subject. Well what good has it done them? Their economies are going down the toilet and they ceased to be meaningful world powers long ago. If trends continue, Europe will be mostly Muslim by mid-century. Europeans may be well educated but they aren't exactly smart.

There are many things that should be done to improve education in the US. But please let's not emulate Europe. They are a dying civilization - better seen as a warning of what not to do than as a positive role model.
5 posted on 01/13/2006 3:43:26 AM PST by sassbox
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"Stupid in America" airs tonight.

It'll be watched by no one and nothing will change. I'm no tinfoil-hatter, but you almost have to assume that our education system is the way it is for a reason. It's pretty much designed to create generation after generation of mindless drones who will do exactly what they're told, exercise no creativity, and will not question authority.

7 posted on 01/13/2006 3:46:57 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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This is awful. We have to spend much more money on education. They have the right idea in the new high school they built in my area, with it's indoor olympic size swimming pool, and plasma TV screens in the hallways.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 3:53:15 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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Stupid in America airs every night.





12 posted on 01/13/2006 3:53:43 AM PST by G.Mason (Did the illegal worker in that burger place, spit on it before, or after he pick it up off the floor)
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the NEA and the Dims should rot in hell for what they are doing to our children.

(BTW, my kid are brilliant and the average Belgian couldn't hold a candle to them....in spite of, not because of, their public school education.)
14 posted on 01/13/2006 3:55:01 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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Marked for some commentary after work.
17 posted on 01/13/2006 3:59:21 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud member of the Free Republic Humility Club. We are twice as humble as you are.)
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someday...somewhere...somehow...someone needs to run the NEA through the RICO wringer and prosecute accordingly......


21 posted on 01/13/2006 4:04:09 AM PST by mo
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My daughter taught in three different states - Georgia, Connecticut, and Tennessee.

She said of all three systems that the biggest obstacle to improved education was the teachers union.
22 posted on 01/13/2006 4:04:47 AM PST by Rhetorical pi2
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Well, there are some smart Belgians out there.


24 posted on 01/13/2006 4:06:28 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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"If people got to choose their kids' school, education options would be endless. There could soon be technology schools, cheap Wal-Mart-like schools, virtual schools where you learn at home on your computer, sports schools, music schools, schools that go all year, schools with uniforms, schools that open early and keep kids later, and, who knows? If there were competition, all kinds of new ideas would bloom."

Why can't we grasp this? Why can't the American people see that a garden designed and maintained by the "state" is profitable only to birds and fertilizer companies. Birds because insects and weed seeds will prosper, fertilizer companies because the poorer the harvest the more the state demands. Until we submit such social fallacy to the tines of free market forces we shall continue to reap our well deserved harvest of blooming idiots.

If we don't have the constitution to deal with squawking birds and turd haulers, then we'll soon have no Constitution period.

32 posted on 01/13/2006 4:31:20 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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This from the country whose only notable achievement is the Belgian Waffle.


34 posted on 01/13/2006 4:33:25 AM PST by jimbo123
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Comparing 300 million Americans to 40 million Belgians is stupid. We have a larger sample OBVIOUSLY we will score worse.


37 posted on 01/13/2006 4:37:02 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Misuse of the Commerce Clause is the root of all Congressional evil)
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43 posted on 01/13/2006 4:45:24 AM PST by Tolik
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This article correctly points out problems with our educational system in the USA. Public education has been dumbed down. In the 6th grade, our geography class could name every country in the world on a map. I don't think students study geography that way any more.
Also, teachers have no power to discipline troublemakers.
Another problem this article dodged. What is the average IQ of American students. Read "The Bell Curve," and you can understand that our total student population is probably dumber than the Belgian population.
45 posted on 01/13/2006 4:57:34 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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46 posted on 01/13/2006 4:59:30 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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No one ever addresses the fact that European schools take 2/3rds of the class out of high school and send them on career tracks in the trades.

When Americans get to the 8th grade let's take only the top third of the students, send them to a special high school and then compare the tests.

Our full population is competing against their top third. That would make a huge difference.

53 posted on 01/13/2006 5:45:50 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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A Gallup Poll survey shows 76 percent of Americans are either completely or somewhat satisfied with their kids' public school...

What do they have to compare their kids' education with? It's all relative.

54 posted on 01/13/2006 5:49:38 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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Here are my current school choices for my soon-to-be five year old:

1. Public School, well reviewed, generously funded, hideous fuzzy math curriculum K-8 (Everyday Math). FREE.

2. Local Parish Scool. Fantastic academic curriculum. Bad, Catholic-Lite, Extra-Social-Justice-Hold-the-One-True-Church, mandatory catechism program. $2400 YEARLY

3. Private Catholic School. Two years old, twenty minute drive, Orthodox. Great across the board curriculum. So small it's two grades to a classroom teacher. $2500 YEARLY


sigh


62 posted on 01/13/2006 6:05:55 AM PST by Eepsy
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