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A nation of millionaires who can't afford to buy anything
The Times ^ | May 8, 2006 | Jonathan Clayton

Posted on 05/07/2006 11:41:46 PM PDT by MadIvan

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I am waiting for the army to turn on Mugabe. It will occur when they realise they're being just as robbbed as the rest of society.

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1 posted on 05/07/2006 11:41:51 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 05/07/2006 11:42:23 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

There are parts of the US where folks worth just a million or two can't afford a really nice house.

Strange...and I know it sounds crazy to most freepers


3 posted on 05/07/2006 11:47:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: MadIvan

There are parts of the US where folks worth just a million or two can't afford a really nice house.

Strange...and I know it sounds crazy to most freepers


4 posted on 05/07/2006 11:47:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: MadIvan
rent for her one-room dwelling has soared to Z$2 million a month.

Yikes!

5 posted on 05/07/2006 11:48:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: wardaddy

Wait, wasn't this guy a confiscate from the rich whites to redistribute to the poor blacks?

Isn't that Democratic policy?

Hasn't it been for decades?

Anyone make that connection?


6 posted on 05/07/2006 11:50:49 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: wardaddy

It's true.

Typically the money is tied up - not liquid.


7 posted on 05/08/2006 12:00:33 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: MadIvan
Zimbabwe a glimpse into a democratic future.
8 posted on 05/08/2006 12:06:23 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: nmh

I could not afford to buy my own home now.

Where I live any home under 250/foot is a deal and I'm in Nashville not Westchester.

I looked at a home that sold for 220K back in 98, 525K in 2003 and asking 795K now

and we thought it was a deal...not that we could afford it

some schlub with a net worth of one to two million ain't gonna be buying a house like that....normally unless is income is also 3-400K/year


9 posted on 05/08/2006 12:08:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: spikeytx86

Zimbabwe a glimpse into a democratic future under the power hungry Communists who today refer to themselves as "progressives.


10 posted on 05/08/2006 12:11:14 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: wardaddy
You can find nice homes in my area for around $50/sq ft. My house was purchased for $46/sq ft in 2000. It's just a little more now. I purchased another 2068 sq ft house last year for $82,900 (40/sq ft). Our gas prices are also the lowest in the nation right now.
11 posted on 05/08/2006 12:19:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: MadIvan
"I am waiting for the army to turn on Mugabe. It will occur when they realise they're being just as robbbed as the rest of society."

What's missing from the article is the key word: Communism.

Mugabe is a communist. His army is staffed with communists.

Communism has failed in Zimbabwe, failed in the CCCP, failed in Cuba, and failed in North Korea.

The Army can take over Zimbabwe, but what are they going to change? They are communists. The communist answer is price controls, enforced at gunpoint.

Antonio Gramsci said that true Communism would *always* fail as the people/workers would eventually come to see the ruling Communists in the same light as they once viewed the ruling class in capitalistic societies...as the new boss...leading to inevitable popular rebellions against communism itself.

This happened first in Poland under Lech Walensa, then East Germany and Czechoslavakia and Romania et al. It will happen in Cuba once Castro dies. It will happen in North Korea.

And it will most certainly happen in Zimbabwe...

...but the question there is what will replace it?!

A rebellion or coup by the Army would likely as not lead to totalitarianism, martial law, or a far harsher version of Communism than Mugabe's current failure...hardly an improvement for the people there.

And the population at large of Zimbabwe isn't educated enough to grasp the benefits of capitalism or democracy. Their main real hope is a benevolent dictator or tribal law/rule, save for a re-colonization by the West.

At least most African tribal law permits low-level capitalism (buy/sell/trade by individuals).

In the near-term, an outright invasion of Zimbabwe by one of its neighbors is a very real possibility...and explains Mugabe's otherwise ridiculous purchase of new combat fighter jets.

12 posted on 05/08/2006 12:20:31 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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good for you...we often think about cashing out and going country but my businesses are here


13 posted on 05/08/2006 12:21:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: MadIvan
We are a country of millionaires, but it goes nowhere and no one has anything.”

I feel very sorry for this poor blighter, but it's really really hard not to laugh.

Is that bad?

L

14 posted on 05/08/2006 12:24:08 AM PDT by Lurker (You can't bargain with a rabid dog.)
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To: MadIvan

A few years ago I paid $24,000 for two beers at a hotel near Victoria Falls. No one knew what to charge for anything. No one could make change. Workers could not cash their pay checks and were forced to leave the full amount wherever they went to buy even a small needed item. Seems that hyperinflation in Zimbabwe now like Nazi Germany times, where wheelbarrows were needed to bring the money for a loaf of bread.

This ruthless dictator is what the supporters of socialism bring to this world. In the U.S. they call themselves "progressives." Left to their own devices this is what they bring to countries they take over. The nationalizing of the farms and stealing them from whites has led Africa's properous bread basket to become an empty basket with maize now unaffordable for making bread and thus a starving population. All because of a failed system called Communism.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 12:24:41 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Southack
The army isn't going to turn on Mugabe. They're far more likely to turn on Zimbabweans (sic?). After all, they have guns and the thousands of poor bastards clutching handfuls of worthless paper have...well they have handfuls of worthless paper.

Plus it's way easier to waste the above mentioned poor bastards in the streets and steal what they have than it will be to get to Mugabe. He may be evil, but he ain't completely stupid. He'll have himself some first class security folks paid for with real cash money, not that pretty colored paper the locals are stuck with.

Zimbabwe is about to get real ugly, real fast Southack. You mark my words on that.

L

16 posted on 05/08/2006 12:31:32 AM PDT by Lurker (You can't bargain with a rabid dog.)
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To: wardaddy
good for you...we often think about cashing out and going country but my businesses are here

I was able to take my job with me. Now I work from my home. No commute. More work space that is totally under my control. Lower rates to my customers...I'm not using a company supplied office, thus that is removed from my "loaded" rate. I still have as much out of town travel as before, but it starts from Pocatello instead of San Diego. Nominally that costs me about 3 extra hours of travel time each way when flying.

17 posted on 05/08/2006 12:32:36 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Southack; MadIvan
Antonio Gramsci said...

Is this the same Antonio Gramsci -- Bill Clinton's hero -- who finished his days in prison after Mussolini outlawed the Communist Party? (i.e., "socialist vs. socialist")

Why are you sourcing that guy?

18 posted on 05/08/2006 1:52:08 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: MadIvan
One of the richest African countries beggared overnight. What will it take to convince the Left socialism does not work? Certainly not Zimbabwe's hyperinflation disaster.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

19 posted on 05/08/2006 2:02:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I feel very sorry for this poor blighter, but it's really really hard not to laugh.

Is that bad?

Frankly, yeah, it is.

"There but for the grace of God go you or I."

Thankfully, by an accident of birth, we were born in a free country. Those who suffer in unthinkable bondage merit our sympathy, not our mirth.

The other day, that smarmy lawyer dude on Fox -- "Greg" something, the one with the slick hair (every hair always in place) and the always-pastel necktie -- was laughing at a video of a bear cub in some FSU country who had his head stuck in a plastic container -- for several days. The poor thing was stumbling around in abject terror -- starving and dehydrating, as well as slowly suffocating, blindly flailing about as it vainly tried to free itself.

That fool was literally laughing out loud, peppering his laughter with statements about how he just had to laugh, because it was so funny. What a mean, base, vile little prick he was.

The other "on-air personalities" could not believe what they were hearing, and tried to reason with him. This was clearly NOT a "scripted moment."

In the end, a courageous guy, a stocky fellow who looked to be in his fifties, managed to duck the claws long enough to free the bear, who made a bee-line for the water, to slake its thirst. The bastard broke out in more laughter at the sight.

I'm sure I personalized this somewhat. I recently lost a pet who was very special to me. She was not only a very good friend, extremely loyal and affectionate, but, she was young, only a few years old, and her death was totally unexpected.

When we rescued her, she had the jagged broken glass mouth of a Mason jar snugged around her throat like a tight necklace. She had somehow gotten her head into a jar, and then managed to break it off -- without cutting her throat or slashing her eyes -- before she suffocated or dehydrated to death. How many days she stumbled around in that state of torture, unable to eat or drink, breathing stale air, her cries of terror echoing in her ears, I will never know, until we are united in Heaven. (Yes, like C.S. Lewis, I believe that God cares for our pets in Heaven.)

Afterward, her head and neck grew to the point that the glass ring could not be removed. She was still a kitten. It wouldn't have been long before she'd have grown large enough for it to strangle her, or, slash her jugular veins. After we managed to trap her, the vet had to anesthetize her and chip it off piece by piece.

I cannot imagine the horror my little friend endured, alone, in the months before she staggered up to our doorstep.

Cruelty to animals just plain sucks, and cruelty to people is to put it mildly, no better.

I am not an "animal-rights" loon. Today, while planting my onion seedlings in my garden, I saw the biggest, fattest cottontail rabbit I've ever seen in my life. Literally. I had an instant vision of him getting fatter yet on my onions -- and garlic, and peas, and melons, and okra, and...

And, I drew my .45 and fired off seven rounds. Unfortunately, at ~30 yards, I did not hit the bastard. (If he was human-sized he'd be in rabbit heaven -- it is very irritating to watch a puff of dirt waft up about five inches from the bunny!)

Tomorrow, I set out the trap -- the same trap I used to catch my little friend who left this world a few short weeks ago. I'm making progress. I only get a lump in my throat when I tell about her, instead of having tears run down my ugly mug.

I distinguish between livestock, game, varmints, and domestic pets -- and, people.

It has been my observation that people who are cruel to animals are inevitably cruel to people too, although it may take a few years for it to manifest. In the case of the lawyer-cum-"on-air personality" who got his day's entertainment laughing at the suffering and terror of young bear, I suspect he's had his moments "in private practice" prior to his engagement at Fox. Pure speculation, of course -- but cruelty tends to run deep in the soul.

20 posted on 05/08/2006 2:20:00 AM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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