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I am waiting for the army to turn on Mugabe. It will occur when they realise they're being just as robbbed as the rest of society.

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1 posted on 05/07/2006 11:41:51 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 05/07/2006 11:42:23 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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There are parts of the US where folks worth just a million or two can't afford a really nice house.

Strange...and I know it sounds crazy to most freepers


3 posted on 05/07/2006 11:47:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: MadIvan

There are parts of the US where folks worth just a million or two can't afford a really nice house.

Strange...and I know it sounds crazy to most freepers


4 posted on 05/07/2006 11:47:11 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: MadIvan
rent for her one-room dwelling has soared to Z$2 million a month.

Yikes!

5 posted on 05/07/2006 11:48:30 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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Zimbabwe a glimpse into a democratic future.
8 posted on 05/08/2006 12:06:23 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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"I am waiting for the army to turn on Mugabe. It will occur when they realise they're being just as robbbed as the rest of society."

What's missing from the article is the key word: Communism.

Mugabe is a communist. His army is staffed with communists.

Communism has failed in Zimbabwe, failed in the CCCP, failed in Cuba, and failed in North Korea.

The Army can take over Zimbabwe, but what are they going to change? They are communists. The communist answer is price controls, enforced at gunpoint.

Antonio Gramsci said that true Communism would *always* fail as the people/workers would eventually come to see the ruling Communists in the same light as they once viewed the ruling class in capitalistic societies...as the new boss...leading to inevitable popular rebellions against communism itself.

This happened first in Poland under Lech Walensa, then East Germany and Czechoslavakia and Romania et al. It will happen in Cuba once Castro dies. It will happen in North Korea.

And it will most certainly happen in Zimbabwe...

...but the question there is what will replace it?!

A rebellion or coup by the Army would likely as not lead to totalitarianism, martial law, or a far harsher version of Communism than Mugabe's current failure...hardly an improvement for the people there.

And the population at large of Zimbabwe isn't educated enough to grasp the benefits of capitalism or democracy. Their main real hope is a benevolent dictator or tribal law/rule, save for a re-colonization by the West.

At least most African tribal law permits low-level capitalism (buy/sell/trade by individuals).

In the near-term, an outright invasion of Zimbabwe by one of its neighbors is a very real possibility...and explains Mugabe's otherwise ridiculous purchase of new combat fighter jets.

12 posted on 05/08/2006 12:20:31 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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A few years ago I paid $24,000 for two beers at a hotel near Victoria Falls. No one knew what to charge for anything. No one could make change. Workers could not cash their pay checks and were forced to leave the full amount wherever they went to buy even a small needed item. Seems that hyperinflation in Zimbabwe now like Nazi Germany times, where wheelbarrows were needed to bring the money for a loaf of bread.

This ruthless dictator is what the supporters of socialism bring to this world. In the U.S. they call themselves "progressives." Left to their own devices this is what they bring to countries they take over. The nationalizing of the farms and stealing them from whites has led Africa's properous bread basket to become an empty basket with maize now unaffordable for making bread and thus a starving population. All because of a failed system called Communism.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 12:24:41 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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One of the richest African countries beggared overnight. What will it take to convince the Left socialism does not work? Certainly not Zimbabwe's hyperinflation disaster.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

19 posted on 05/08/2006 2:02:47 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Hah hah!
Bet they wish they hadn't killed or run off Whitey now.
29 posted on 05/08/2006 6:47:25 AM PDT by noobiangod
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This is like something out of a Frederick Pohl story.


32 posted on 05/08/2006 7:12:00 AM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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But I'm sure their self-esteem is much higher now that their government officials are all black, right?


34 posted on 05/08/2006 8:21:36 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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This is the same country/government that just announced plans to buy $50 million USD of military equipment from Russia (includes 10 fighters). This kleptocratic regime makes even the worst European Colonial administration (Belgium Congo probably) look good by comparison. Native rule was the gold standard from the 1950s on in Africa and Asia. I'd wish that there had been something left in the middle between colonialism and South African Apartheid so that a comparison could have been made. Unfortunately, in the anti-colonialism fervor of the Cold War, the baby went out with the bath water ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622875/posts
35 posted on 05/08/2006 9:50:13 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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He said that until now the worst effects had been partially offset by remittances from the four million Zimbabweans, a quarter of the population, living outside the country.

So, are we to assume that corrupt governments would fall sooner if remittances were stopped? I think Mexican leaders have that fear.

47 posted on 05/11/2006 12:15:00 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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Is there any right leaning generals (ala Pinochet) in that country the CIA could back to take Mugabe down???


48 posted on 05/11/2006 1:49:49 AM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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