Posted on 09/05/2006 5:21:33 PM PDT by EagleUSA
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said on Tuesday he would veto a bill that would create a government-run health care system for the most populous U.S. state.
The widely expected veto, as Schwarzenegger seeks re-election in November, marks one of the Republican governor's sharpest breaks with the state's Democratic-led legislature this year.
Schwarzenegger commended the Democratic lawmaker who advanced the health-care bill, but said California could not afford a state-run health system.
An immigrant from Austria, Schwarzenegger had previously signaled his opposition to the bill because he believes state-run health systems in Europe work against consumers.
The bill by state Sen. Sheila Kuehl would create a state-managed health insurance program open to all Californians and bar private health insurance plans from selling services offered by the new program.
"Socialized medicine is not the solution to our state's health care problems," Schwarzenegger said in a statement.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
People who say there is no difference between Arnold and Angelides are delusional.
Angelides would have signed this bill.
Angelides would have signed this bill.
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Without any doubt. And that type of thinking, (to hell with the will of the people of California), is what the radical left is all about in California. Big government power, at any price to the state's economy, to private enterprise, and to the RIGHTS OF CALIFORNIA CITIZENS and taxpayers.
These communists just don't care -- about anything BUT POWER AND CONTROL, at any price.
Actually, I don't think this bill would have even been introduced if a Democrat were in office. This bill was put forward by Zelda just to force Arnold to veto it. The Dems will then point to this and claim that Republicans are against health care.
This is how contemptible the Democrats have become that they would purposefully put something like this POS bill forward with such an ulterior motive in mind.
Angelides is on record saying he did not support the Kuehl bill.
CA: Governor and rival both oppose bill for universal health care (Kuehl bill)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | August 30, 2006 | Tom Chorneau
Posted on 08/30/2006 8:11:54 AM PDT by calcowgirl
Arnold is just as contemptible, for he certainly agreed to the gambit in order to throw a meaningless bone to his base and everybody is happy.
What a farce. See tagline.
If all the conservatives in SC gathered in one spot, no one would notice.
;)
We get to see where the left is going every day.
"Angelides is on record saying he did not support the Kuehl bill. "
LOL - and he wouldn't lie to us, now would he ?
You know as well as eveyone does that saying he didn't support it does NOT mean he would have vetoed it.
"Arnold is just as contemptible, for he certainly agreed to the gambit in order to throw a meaningless bone to his base and everybody is happy."
LOL - So the Dems and Arnold are now in cahoots to keep Angeledies from being elected. What a hoot !
"This is how contemptible the Democrats have become that they would purposefully put something like this POS bill forward with such an ulterior motive in mind."
Change Democrats to Marxists. There no longer are Democrats.
THat is what the author of that article said.
Here is excerpts of what Angelides actually said. It's clear that Angelides just doesn't want to come out for the bill, because his focus group told him it's a bad idea,just the same way it took him months to declare support for Jessica's law:
CA: Angelides Mum on Health Care Bill (universal healthcare -- SB840)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1695077/posts
"Although Phil Angelides already is gearing up to slam Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for his expected veto of state Sen. Sheila Kuehl's universal health care bill, SB 840, the Democratic hopeful has no intention of telling anyone what he would do if he actually was governor, instead of just a candidate for the job. When asked Sunday if he would sign the bill that's now on the governor's desk, Angelides refused, often and at great length, to say.
"It's a moot issue because (Schwarzenegger) is not going to sign it," the treasurer said. "It's a moot issue because it's on his desk and he's failed to do anything on health care."
Angelides then launched into a impassioned description of his own plan, which includes expanding health care to all children, cutting the profit margin for HMOs, requiring large companies to provide insurance for employees and then bringing "business leaders, consumers and health experts together to move California toward universal health care."
But what about Kuehl's bill, which would eliminate private health insurance in the state. Not only would it provide the universal health care Angelides wants to work toward, but it's already been passed by the Democrat-controlled Legislature.
"This bill, which is going to be vetoed in a nanosecond by this governor, is just a reflection of his failure, so it's a moot issue," he said.
But if Phil Angelides was governor of California, would he sign this bill?
"I'm going to say one more time, it's a moot issue," he answered. "It's a bill on (Schwarzenegger's) desk. It's a signal when he vetoes it of his failure to do anything on the issue of health care."
Actually, I don't think this bill would have even been introduced if a Democrat were in office.
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While I agree with your reasoning about their socialists politics, I still think they would have done something like this because they are socialists and are willing to do anything, at any cost to the state, for their empowerment and bigger liberal socialist government...
Not all of them, but from what I can tell, as far as Nunez, Perata, Villaraigosa etc are concerned, they've decided they'd rather have the Grovelnator than their own candidate.
Here's how I think things look from their perspective: The California Democrats have only just recovered from Bray Davis. They know the mediots have managed to make a girly man out of Arnold. They know he can deliver 80% of what they want because he can chill the Republican opposition. Besides, the people behind Arnold are the same people they need to please for campaign money. They also know the State is going bust. So when things crash, they'll make sure Arnold gets the blame and the Republican Party with him.
OTOH if Angelides is elected and tries to raise taxes etc, they don't get as much of what they want against unified Republican opposition. They know Angelides is enough of a stupid idealogue as to proudly reveal the real socialist agenda of the DNC in such a was as to scare everybody. The people freak, the State crashes and burns anyway, and the blame goes to a Democrat with enough charm to make Gray Davis look Mr. Congeniality. They'd be history and they know it.
So, what's to lose for the Democrats backing Arnold?
Go ahead and celebrate, but I think you're being rather shortsighted for not seeing this. As far as I am concerned, this spate of events is merely proof of the disaster that lies in store should Arnold be re-elected.
Of course, nowhere in what you posted does Angelides say he "will" sign it, as was contended.
He probably just backed off of his opposition statement because he took too much heat from the commies in his party.
Amazing how much like a Democrat you think ...
Let the State crash, blame the other guys and the people will love you when you try to pick up the pieces.
Somehow that just dosen't have the ring of conservative thinking to me ...
Well it's not amazing that you can't construct a cogent argument; it's typical.
Let the State crash, blame the other guys and the people will love you when you try to pick up the pieces.
So instead of a cogent argument, you make up what you wish I had said out of whole cloth. It's a crock. I've done everything in my power to preclude the massive debt Arnold has incurred. Given the direction you 'droids have taken, being too cowardly to allow a contested primary, there's nothing I can do about it now except tell you it's going to happen.
Somehow that just dosen't have the ring of conservative thinking to me ...
Given that you aren't one, how would you know?
"I've done everything in my power to preclude the massive debt Arnold has incurred."
I will agree that you have done everything in your power to attack Arnold, and I don't believe I've seen a single line of support on anything he's done that upset the Democrats.
In fact, you've constructed a way to attack him here when he did as a Republican should do and vetoed this bill.
Nonsense. I praised his hiring of Donna Arduin. I praised his appointment of Tom Campbell to Finance Director. I praised his appointment of Andrea Hoch to the state Division of Workers’ Compensation. I praised his endorsement of Prop. 73, even though he abandoned it later. And the biggie… He signed a ban on subsidized Viagra for sex offenders!!! Now that’s moral courage.
So go ahead and say what you like, when you stop with the dishonest character assassination and start posting facts and logic, I'll stop ignoring you.
Poor Karaoke, his character always being assassinated? You won't stop ignoring anyone, as long as you can cause disruption. Btw, I noticed a few of your 'praises' to Arnie and backhanded they were!
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