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Begging for free speech
Reuters ^ | Mar 16, 2007

Posted on 03/19/2007 1:14:41 AM PDT by Lorianne

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Ireland's High Court struck down a 19th century law against begging on Thursday, ruling in favor of a beggar who had argued that his arrest violated a right to free speech, broadcaster RTE reported.

Justice Eamon De Valera rejected the argument made by Niall Dillon that the law discriminated between rich and poor.

But the judge agreed that a section of the Vagrancy Act of 1847, enacted during the Great Famine, was unconstitutional because it interfered with the rights of freedom of expression and freedom to communicate with other people.

Dillon was arrested for begging in Dublin in 2003 and charged under the law. Following the ruling, his prosecution can no longer go ahead.

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Prime Minister Bertie Ahern unveiled plans in 2004 to repeal thousands of English and British laws -- some dating back to William the Conqueror in the 11th century -- that were enacted prior to Irish Independence in 1922 and remain in force.

More obscure acts such as one from the 12th century forbidding monks "to receive men unless their reputation is known" and another banning Jews from owning chain mail will be struck off the statute books altogether.

Those with continued relevance today will be replaced by more up-to-date laws.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: freespeech; vagrancy; vagrancylaws
He has a point.
1 posted on 03/19/2007 1:14:44 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne; MoochPooch; Michael81Dus; Vicomte13; az_gila; Experiment 6-2-6; henkster; CT-Freeper; ...
Europe pinglist

If you want on or off, just go to the link and follow the instructions. Otherwise, can't guarantee that you'll be put onto the list (technically it still won't be guaranteed, but it will be much more probable).

2 posted on 03/19/2007 3:06:38 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Lorianne

THE LITTLE BEGGARMAN
I am a little beggarman and begging I have been
For three score or more in this little isle of green
I'm known from the Liffey down to Segue
And I'm known by the name of old Johnny Dhu
Of all the trade's that's going, sure begging is the best
For when a man is tired, he can sit down and rest
He can beg for his dinner, he has nothing else to do
Only cut around the corner with his old rig-a-doo

I slept in the barn, down at Caurabawn
A wet night came on and I slept 'till the dawn
With holes in the roof and the rain coming through
And the rats and the cats, they were playing peek-a-boo
When who did I waken but the woman of the house
With her white spotty apron and her calico blouse
She began to frighten and I said "boo
Aarah, don't be afraid mam it's only Johnny Dhu"

I met a little flaxy-haired girl one day
"Good morning little flaxy-haired girl" I did say
"Good morning little beggarman, a how do you do
With your rags and you tags and you old rig-a-doo"
I'll buy a pair of leggings, a collar and a tie
And a nice young lady I'll fetch by and by
I'll buy a pair of goggles and I'll colour them blue
And an old fashioned lady I will make her too

Over the road with my pack on my back
Over the fields with my great heavy sack
With holes in my shoes and my toes peeping through
Singing skinny-me-rink a doodle o and old Johnny Dhu
I must be going to bed for it's getting late at night
The fire's all raked and out goes the light
So now you've heard the story of my old rig-a-doo
It's good-bye and God be with you says old Johnny Dhu



- Traditional


3 posted on 03/19/2007 5:37:12 AM PDT by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: Lorianne
Vagrancy Act of 1847

It's odd that they didn't revamp their laws after independence. Imagine the U.S. having a law on the books written by some English king 600 years ago.

4 posted on 03/19/2007 12:41:43 PM PDT by jordan8
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