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Stossel: Gun Control Isn't Crime Control
ABC ^ | 04/26/07 | John Stossel

Posted on 04/27/2007 5:56:48 AM PDT by jonyyeh

This past Tuesday the governor of Virginia announced he would close the loophole that allowed Seung-Hui Cho to buy the guns he used to kill 32 people — and himself — on the Virginia Tech campus. OK, it's a good idea to keep guns out of the hands of people who are mentally unstable. But be careful about how far the calls for gun control go, because the idea that gun control laws lower gun crime is a myth.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunrights; johnstossel; virginiatech
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1 posted on 04/27/2007 5:56:51 AM PDT by jonyyeh
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Gun Control Is Not Crime Control.

BRILLIANT Line - I’m using it - and calling it my own.

Great line.


2 posted on 04/27/2007 5:58:45 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent speeding tickets...........


3 posted on 04/27/2007 6:01:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Jake The Goose
...the idea that gun control laws lower gun crime is a myth.

If it were true, NYC and DC would be Crime-Free Zones.......

4 posted on 04/27/2007 6:03:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Red Badger

Bingo - great observation - .....


5 posted on 04/27/2007 6:06:51 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Red Badger

Right, Jake.

The District is a stinking morass of crime, and even with superbly strict gun control laws, killings are a daily fact of life in the nation’s capital.

More laws on gun control is really an emotional response to a problem(gun related crime)that must be approached in a rational fashion. As Mr. Stossel opines, more guns in criminal hands and fewer guns in the hands of law abiding citizens make no sense.


6 posted on 04/27/2007 6:07:39 AM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Jake The Goose
BRILLIANT Line - I’m using it - and calling it my own.

Will use it as well; but John should 'own' it. . .and get it on a bumper sticker. . .because I want that 'one';^). . .but if he does not; guess we are free to do just that, right?

7 posted on 04/27/2007 6:08:42 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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Use to be that you had to be a citizen of the USA to purchase a firearm from a dealer. What year did that change?


8 posted on 04/27/2007 6:09:04 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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What they need is for all Liberal universities to put warning labels on their catalogs and websites. . .and warning signage on campus. That might at least wake up those who are still capable; and warn others, before they are put to sleep; had their judgment rendered null and void, by their Liberal education.

Had Little Red Riding Hood been raised by Liberals; the story would have a different ending.

9 posted on 04/27/2007 6:14:16 AM PDT by cricket (If you want to lose a mile; give a Lib an inch. . .)
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He made one goof, worrying about teenage college students with carry permits- in VA, you must be 21 to get the paper that lets you carry.


10 posted on 04/27/2007 6:22:58 AM PDT by DBrow
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“...the idea that gun control laws lower gun crime is a myth.”

A perfectly commonsensical understanding of reality. Unfortunately, there’s nothing less common in the modern world than common sense.


11 posted on 04/27/2007 7:07:49 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Deaf Smith
[It] Use[d] to be that you had to be a citizen of the USA to purchase a firearm from a dealer. What year did that change?

That was the year that State Democrats decided that everyone deserved a state driver's license (indistinguishable from any other citizen) so that legal and illegal aliens, along with convicts and the dead, could vote Democrat in the elections.

12 posted on 04/27/2007 7:09:21 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Red Badger

Banning guns would be like the banning of drugs. How is that working for us?


13 posted on 04/27/2007 7:13:37 AM PDT by JayAr36 (No Party, just a Conservative.)
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Banning guns would be like the banning of drugs. How is that working for us?

Not really a good example. As stated I could go for it.

Why?

Since banning drugs, they are more plentiful than ever.

Since banning drugs, there is a greater variety and greater potency than ever.

So in the sense that banning something usually gets the opposite effect, I'm not sure this is a great example.

14 posted on 04/27/2007 7:19:09 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Pelosi Democrats agree with Al Queda more often than they agree with President Bush.)
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From the Dept. of Justice:

Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were

robbers (70.2%),
burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%),
motor vehicle thieves (78.8%),
those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%),
and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).

Within 3 years,
2.5% of released rapists were arrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for homicide.

The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated 4.1 million arrest charges before their most recent imprisonment and another 744,000 charges within 3 years of release.


15 posted on 04/27/2007 7:42:27 AM PDT by Leisler
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How is that working for us?

Great if you are employed or have a business selling to the security bureaucracy

16 posted on 04/27/2007 7:43:32 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Eagle Eye

Outlawing anything will make it more desirable, creating a market for them. A gun is not hard to make:
http://www.thehomegunsmith.com/


17 posted on 04/27/2007 7:45:19 AM PDT by JayAr36 (No Party, just a Conservative.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Ban drugs, war on drugs, billions spent. It became a business and a very profitable one - more money is made ‘preventing’ illegal drugs than the sale of such. I knew the so-called war was lost when we can’t seem to keep them out of the hands of convicts in prison? Prison!


18 posted on 04/27/2007 7:52:39 AM PDT by imagineer (common sense is oxymoronic)
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To: imagineer

Excellent point and I’ve used it before.

If we can’t keep drugs and weapons out of the hands of convicts in prison, how the heck does any one think that the government can keep them out of the hands of (so called) free citizens?

And why should they attempt to do so?


19 posted on 04/27/2007 8:35:19 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Pelosi Democrats agree with Al Queda more often than they agree with President Bush.)
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To: jonyyeh

More guns, less crime, as John Lott demonstrated.


20 posted on 04/27/2007 11:26:37 AM PDT by TBP
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