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To: SunkenCiv
2 posted on
01/17/2008 7:25:44 AM PST by
CholeraJoe
(Hey McCain! How about a game of solitaire? Betcha can't find the Queen of Diamonds.)
To: forkinsocket
To bad they’ve gone backward.
To: forkinsocket
I think they copied mathematics from the Persians
To: forkinsocket
built in 1453Helen Thomas was the on-the-scene reporter.
6 posted on
01/17/2008 7:29:31 AM PST by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
To: forkinsocket
I’m sure they demolished the existing structure, stole the pattern and built their mosque over it.
To: forkinsocket
A mathematical discovery ought to have some established justification in order for it to be meaningful. Putting down tiles in a pattern and walking away is perhaps interesting, but I'm not sure I find it significant.
Also, looking for a non-repeating series is hard -- but I'm sure it gets a lot easier if you're willing to overlook the 11 flaws in the series.
8 posted on
01/17/2008 7:30:50 AM PST by
ClearCase_guy
(The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
To: forkinsocket
I wonder if this is like the Bible Codes and that sort of thing - if you look for patterns you eventually find them - and then you explain away any discrepancies when they don’t fit your theory.
To: forkinsocket
Islam is such a blight on the whole world that extolling any contributions it may have made in the past is like putting lipstick on a pig.
11 posted on
01/17/2008 7:35:53 AM PST by
TexasRepublic
(Islam is a mental disorder)
To: forkinsocket
I am confused: It says mosques, but then it states that only one mosque “passed the test”. Then there is this: “Among the 3,700 tiles Lu and Steinhardt mapped, there are only 11 tiny flaws, tiles placed in the wrong orientation. Lu argues that these are accidents possibly introduced during centuries of repair. Art historians always suspected there must be something more to these patterns, says Tom Lentz, director of Harvard University Art Museums, but they were never examined with this kind of scientific rigor.
Is it several mosques show this “ability” or one mosque?
Are these 11 flaws in the one mosque that “passed the test”?
If they are, why should they be ignored?
12 posted on
01/17/2008 7:36:46 AM PST by
sticker
To: forkinsocket
BS. Mooselimbs have never discovered anything. Ever.
Besides, you don’t get credit for a discovery in math unless it’s accompanied by a proof. In other words, you have to know what you’re doing. You cannot simply be a stupid monkey with a paintbrush.
13 posted on
01/17/2008 7:37:17 AM PST by
LibWhacker
(Democrats are phony Americans)
To: forkinsocket
And it’s been all downhill for them ever since...
To: forkinsocket
This might already be in GGG inventory, I read about it last year. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17282496/ Geometry feat cloaked in medieval Islamic tile Researcher: Quasicrystals mastered centuries before West explained them
17 posted on
01/17/2008 7:41:26 AM PST by
BGHater
('A Nation's best defense is an educated citizenry'-Thomas Jefferson)
To: forkinsocket
The problem with this is that it was not a "mathematical discovery" but simply tile makers experimenting with patterns that they found attractive.
There are thousands or more of possible tile shapes that can generate a "quasicrystal" or "aperiodic tiling" or "Penrose tiling."
In fact, any decagon-shaped tile that overlaps two ways generates a quasicrystal pattern.
So, of the millions of mosaics made by Muslim floor tilers over an 800 year period, exactly one decided to use a standard Muslim girih decagon with a slightly different decorative flourish that happened to generate a quasicrystal.
This was not the work of an Islamic mathematician coming up with an ingenious equation which he then used to create the tiles. It was the work of an artisan who liked making fancy-looking tiles, and this particular one randomly happened to have an interesting property.
There is no record that any Muslim even noticed this pattern as being extraordinary in any way other than its attractiveness or that it had any mathematical import.
18 posted on
01/17/2008 7:43:09 AM PST by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: forkinsocket
Yep, Muslim scholars that coudln’t crack the molestation code, are none the less the world’s most brilliant mathmetitians. 72 Wirgins and all, color me skeptical...
My guess is that mosaic mistakes do happen. Deal with it.
21 posted on
01/17/2008 7:46:24 AM PST by
DoughtyOne
(< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
To: forkinsocket
.....Most of the patterns examined failed the test, but one passed..... And the only one that passed, FAILED, with "11 tiny flaws". Try handing in a math thesis with "only" 11 flaws. So this astonishing discovery DOES NOT EXIST in ANY example. HOW DOES THIS CRAP GET PUBLISHED???
To: forkinsocket
Muslim scholars made a geometric breakthrough 500 years before mathematicians in the West.Fat lotta good it did them. How many patents do Muslim nations account for?
What have they done for us lately?
24 posted on
01/17/2008 7:50:53 AM PST by
Maceman
To: forkinsocket
Among the 3,700 tiles Lu and Steinhardt mapped, there are only 11 tiny flaws, tiles placed in the wrong orientation. Just as with global warming, when "science" has an agenda, it can always find ways to ignore inconvenient details.
31 posted on
01/17/2008 8:01:46 AM PST by
denydenydeny
(Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
To: forkinsocket
Do they mention that almost all of the artisans who created this tilework were Christians?
32 posted on
01/17/2008 8:03:04 AM PST by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: forkinsocket
34 posted on
01/17/2008 8:04:34 AM PST by
Slicksadick
(Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
To: forkinsocket
What has islam done for us lately?
35 posted on
01/17/2008 8:05:36 AM PST by
SlowBoat407
(Just how will wrecking the U.S. economy save the planet?)
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