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EU Ponders Privacy of Internet Addresses
PC World ^ | January 27, 2008 | Paul Meller

Posted on 01/27/2008 7:57:54 AM PST by holymoly

Discussions about Google's plan to buy DoubleClick raised the question whether an IP address is legally private.

Europe's top data protection officials are working to clarify a grey area of Internet law: the legal status of an Internet Protocol (IP) address.

The question of whether an IP address should be considered private data occupied much time at a hearing last week at the European Parliament regarding Google's planned acquisition of DoubleClick. If a person can be identified by an IP address, then the address is private, said Peter Schaar, the German data protection commissioner and chairman of the Europe-wide privacy group, the Article 29 Committee.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: doubleclick; eu; europeanunion; google; googlecorrupt; ip
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1 posted on 01/27/2008 7:57:56 AM PST by holymoly
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To: holymoly

See also: “IP addresses are personal date, EU regulator says”: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1957585/posts


2 posted on 01/27/2008 8:01:44 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: holymoly

To my mind, it’s the hardware address that, if anything, should be considered private.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 8:05:36 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: holymoly

I hope this was a lucky guess—because you hit me spot on! Are you peeping in my windows? LOL!


4 posted on 01/27/2008 8:15:06 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
IP addresses are not hardware addresses (MAC addresses are). Groups of IP addresses called blocks are issued to ISPs and to large cooperations and government entities.

When you connect to the internet from your home computer / network, you are most commonly given a temporary address that can and sometimes is, reused by the ISP, after you are finished with your session and log out.

This is very much like renting a car. Do you have an expectation of privacy when using Hertz’s car on the public highway?

5 posted on 01/27/2008 8:15:50 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: basil
I hope this was a lucky guess—because you hit me spot on! Are you peeping in my windows? LOL!

All ur IP are belong to us!!!

;o)

6 posted on 01/27/2008 8:17:33 AM PST by holymoly (Molon labe.)
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To: basil
Are you peeping in my windows?

Yup



7 posted on 01/27/2008 8:18:16 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: holymoly
Nope! My IP address is 127.0.0.1.

Try to see if you can hack into my machine and delete all my data!

Shut Up I Hack You

Warning: some strong language but funny as heck!

8 posted on 01/27/2008 8:21:23 AM PST by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: taxcontrol
IP addresses are not hardware addresses (MAC addresses are).

I know that. But it's the one truly unique thing that identifies your computer. An IP address can be from a single pool of NAT addresses that can be dynamically assigned, and not unique to any particular host device.

9 posted on 01/27/2008 8:24:07 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

A single machine can have multiple IP addresses ... it is not unique.


10 posted on 01/27/2008 8:26:44 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: HangnJudge

Wrong IP
Wrong ISP
Right OS
Right Browser
Wrong City


11 posted on 01/27/2008 8:29:21 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
A single machine can have multiple IP addresses ... it is not unique.

But the MAC address IS specific to the device port accessing the network.
However, it can be changed; by replacing a Wireless Card for instance,
and even spoofed, for example, by altering the MAC address of a router.
12 posted on 01/27/2008 8:35:27 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: taxcontrol
Wrong IP
Wrong ISP
Right OS
Right Browser
Wrong City


Very good!
I suspect you have taken a few precautions
13 posted on 01/27/2008 8:37:31 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: taxcontrol
Might your prior training have anything to do with this?

‘95 - ‘00 Joined Cisco Systems as a network engineer.

14 posted on 01/27/2008 8:41:56 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

:-)

I knew that CCIE would pay off sooner or later.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 8:42:04 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
CCIE Wiki

:-)
16 posted on 01/27/2008 8:47:48 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Yeah, if something is _broadcast_ then it is not private.


17 posted on 01/27/2008 8:57:56 AM PST by glorgau
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To: HangnJudge

You can also change the MAC address of any Ethernet interface by issuing the correct control command to the chip.

Every ethernet chip has a “BIA” (burned in address) and the MAC address that it is using now, which in most cases is the BIA.

Back in the days of DECnet, no ethernet device on a DECnet network used its BIA. They all were set to a MAC derived from the area.node DECnet level 3 address.

Everyone forgets that you can change your Ethernet MAC addresses today, because the protocols that used to change the MAC address to match the level 3 configuration are no longer in wide use.


18 posted on 01/27/2008 8:58:22 AM PST by NVDave
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To: holymoly
If anyone on the net believes that their communication is private,
they are deluded. Here is mix of OS's visiting my FR web page.

I am but a NOOB,
someone with greater skills than I can do much more

19 posted on 01/27/2008 8:59:28 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Philistone

You said — “Warning: some strong language but funny as heck!”

Yup..., hacked himself into oblivion... LOL!

Regards,
Star Traveler


20 posted on 01/27/2008 9:09:15 AM PST by Star Traveler
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