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Eldorado Yearning For Zion women experience the most feared words ever spoken
NewsReleaseWire ^ | 17Apr08 | Gary D. Naler

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:17:40 AM PDT by claudiustg

“The death penalty of family law cases.” This is how the events unfolding for 416 children and their now-separated mothers were described as the State of Texas and Child Protective Services (CPS) mount their largest single attack ever on families. After being forcibly removed from their homes at gunpoint and then through deceit and lies separated from their children, these crying and now-untrusting mothers deprived of any parting contact with their children were given the choice—go to a women’s shelter or go back to your homes. “Your children are ours,” said CPS.

Fearfully, these distressed mothers are not alone in their harrowing experience. After working with 300 cases in Georgia alone, State Senator Nancy Schaefer filed a report, concluding: “I believe Child Protective Services nationwide has become corrupt and that the entire system is broken almost beyond repair. I am convinced parents and families should be warned of the dangers. … It obliterates families and children simply because it has the power to do so.” ...

...“Our children have good mothers. We take very good care of them. We are not child abusers. The only abuse they've ever had is since the CPS has taken them. They are innocent and sweet children,” said one mother. "The sexual abuse and all of these reports that are coming through are not accurate," said Janet. "It seems as though, often times people judge from their own hearts — other people — and this is what we are victims of."

(Excerpt) Read more at expertclick.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: flds; garydnaler; lds; mormonism
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1 posted on 04/17/2008 6:17:40 AM PDT by claudiustg
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To: claudiustg

Anyone else having difficulty understanding that title?


2 posted on 04/17/2008 6:22:49 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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What a tragedy. While no one condones marrying off little girls, how can the taking away of children from these mothers be justified? Shouldn’t they at least have their day in court BEFORE they give up their kids?


3 posted on 04/17/2008 6:25:54 AM PDT by svxdave (Life is too short to wear a fake Rolex.)
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What a tragedy. While no one condones marrying off little girls, how can the taking away of children from these mothers be justified? Shouldn’t they at least have their day in court BEFORE they give up their kids?

Now that there's a War On Polygamy, just like the War On Drugs, you are about to see government powers expanded in the same way. Their children will be taken to state re-education camps and their assets will be seized, all before anyone sees the inside of a courtroom.

4 posted on 04/17/2008 6:30:55 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: claudiustg
Considering the original accuser is nowhere to be found... I wonder what other evidence the state of Texas has obtained about possible child abuse at the compound? I read that this case was being investigated for four years. I really hope that the raid was not executed based solely on a single yet-to-be-substantiated accusation from someone who cannot be found.

I have been having mixed feelings about this raid. It just seems like, as others have said, "child abuse" has become the root password of the Constitution, permitting the government to take very broad actions against people. I am just grateful that this wasn't Waco all over again.

5 posted on 04/17/2008 6:31:22 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: svxdave

Yeah. It’s been two weeks now. No telling how many marriages CPS interferred with.


6 posted on 04/17/2008 6:32:10 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: svxdave
how can the taking away of children from these mothers be justified?

Did the children that were given to the men ever have a day in court?

7 posted on 04/17/2008 6:33:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pnh102

This whole operation is obscene. I agree with weeding out any child molesters, but a wholesale separation of children from mothers without overt evidence is unconsciable.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 6:34:17 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: claudiustg
Note all the pathos, poignancy and suffering contained in this article by one of today's manipulative "journalists".

As one more grounded writer put it, "Like the harrowing tales written by yellow journalists such as the 19th-century celebrity reporter, Nellie Bly, and her sob-sister descendants, today's emotion-driven reporters write columns calculated to snag readers with tearful narratives and not let them go till they burst, on cue, into tears."

Leni

9 posted on 04/17/2008 6:34:47 AM PDT by MinuteGal (I Love My Country More Than I Dislike John McCain)
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To: claudiustg
They want them to teach them how to have sex at an early age and be available for the perverts at what grade level, some states are starting in first grade?
10 posted on 04/17/2008 6:35:46 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the Royal 100 Club)
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To: svxdave

“What a tragedy. While no one condones marrying off little girls, how can the taking away of children from these mothers be justified? Shouldn’t they at least have their day in court BEFORE they give up their kids?”

So you would condone allowing these women have unfettered access to potential witnessess ‘before their day in court’? Remember, that these women have aided and abetted criminal acts by their husbands. And, remember also, many of these ‘children’ are 10-16 year old girls considered to prime candidates for ‘marraige’.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 6:35:47 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: pnh102
Other evidence: several 13, 14 , 15 and 16 yo that are pregnant.
12 posted on 04/17/2008 6:36:24 AM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: claudiustg
The soundbite from the head of Texas CPS that the seized children are now happily playing with their prison guards, was chillingly similar to when Janet Reno assured us that little Elian was happy back in Cuba. Remember that Reno calmly assured us in her best mother-voice that the raid on the Branch Davidians (another private Christian group with beliefs that were easy to cast in a bad light) was necessary because “children were being abused in there”.

The unprompted declaration by a member of CPS that all these children now belong to the state, at the instant of armed seizure, well before any judicial hearing on the matter should absolutely chill the very soul of every citizen who thinks the Constitution is still the highest law of the land, if for the only reason that CPS appears to be behaving exactly like BATF did during the Waco debacle, where they suspended the Constitution because they didn't think anyone would care. Well, I care that CPS has run amok and all FReepers should care too.

Let the litigation begin!

13 posted on 04/17/2008 6:36:41 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: pnh102

>>”I am just grateful that this wasn’t Waco all over again.<<”

Next time it may very well be.


14 posted on 04/17/2008 6:37:01 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: CindyDawg

No telling how many marriages CPS interferred with.
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Lots of harems ...multi-marriages..

But no REAL marriages..


15 posted on 04/17/2008 6:37:56 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: svxdave
The FLDS is a polygamous cult, and there may actually be cases of minor women forced to have sex against their will. Several of their leaders are sleazy characters. They left mainstream Mormonism over 100 years ago when the LDS Church denounced polygamy. That being said, the greater danger to liberty and public order is for the State of Texas to be using ham-handed tactics worthy of a dictatorship to destroy the lives of hundreds of people, an action based upon a complaint by a 16 year old girl who cannot be located.

Were the state of Texas serious about the minors having sex with adults, it would send cops and social workers into the slum districts of Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, and El Paso and round up underage mothers and arrest the adult fathers who claim no responsibility for the children they have sired. However, that would cause cries of racism and bigotry. The FLDS is an unpopular and politically powerless minority, so they fell victim to the full force of the state without anything resembling the due process of law.

16 posted on 04/17/2008 6:38:38 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: claudiustg; aculeus; Billthedrill; AppyPappy; AnAmericanMother; Ezekiel; Larry Lucido; ...
Regarding Gary D. Naler,

US Author Praises Saudi Morality & Separation of the Sexes

17 posted on 04/17/2008 6:39:36 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Wallace T.
Were the state of Texas serious about the minors having sex with adults, it would send cops and social workers into the slum districts of Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Fort Worth, and El Paso and round up underage mothers and arrest the adult fathers who claim no responsibility for the children they have sired.

Wow... there aren't enough ways for me to say how much I agree with that. You are 100% correct. I would hope the lawyers for the mothers involved can make the argument that they are being selectively prosecuted.

18 posted on 04/17/2008 6:41:15 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: CindyDawg
I had difficulty until I read another article.

1. Place - Eldorado.

2. Name of Ranch (or compound) - Yearning for Zion.

Basically: The women of the Yearning for Zion Ranch (or compound) in Eldorado experience the most feared words ever spoken.

19 posted on 04/17/2008 6:42:43 AM PDT by Enterprise ((Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!))
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To: BlazingArizona

Those poor kids have no assets; they are prisoners of that ranch.


20 posted on 04/17/2008 6:43:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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