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A Bare Minimum of Student Privacy
Townhall.com ^ | July 2, 2009 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 07/02/2009 7:26:06 AM PDT by Kaslin

Public schools are filled with eager, fresh-faced youngsters, and prisons contain many rough-looking adults with uninviting personalities. But put aside that difference and you find some important similarities between the two places -- government-run facilities where individuals are held for a specific number of years without their consent, at the mercy of their custodians.

For years, the Supreme Court has been doing its best to further blur the distinction by giving public-school officials the same powers as the warden of San Quentin. So it was a mild surprise last week to learn there are some abridgments of freedom and invasions of privacy inflicted on children that the justices will not tolerate.

That's the good news for youngsters. The bad news is unless an administrator makes you take off your clothes, you're probably out of luck.

One day in the fall of 2003, a middle-school student in Safford, Ariz., was caught with contraband ibuprofen, which she said she had gotten from Savana Redding. The 13-year-old Savana was called to the office, where she denied knowing anything about the pills and agreed to a search of her belongings.

When it turned up nothing, an administrative assistant took her to the nurse's office and told her to remove her jacket, socks and shoes. Still no pills.

That would have been the perfect moment for a sudden burst of common sense, inducing the school officials to admit defeat and let the girl get back to algebra. But the needed epiphany did not come to the adults. They ordered Savana to take off her shirt and pants -- a step that also proved unavailing.

Were they done? No, they were not. In their relentless quest for illicit Advil, the officials refused to let considerations of modesty be an impediment. They insisted that Savana pull her bra and underpants away from her body to prove she was not hiding pills there. Again, they got nothing.

Last week, though, they got a rebuke from the Supreme Court. It has given principals and teachers great latitude in imposing control on children. But even justices who were indulgent with past government intrusions gagged at the image of officials peeking into an adolescent's most private areas.

Justices Samuel Alito and Ruth Bader Ginsburg don't agree on many things. But they and six other justices (Clarence Thomas being the exception) joined in a decision that rejected abusing public-school students in the name of protecting them.

The Fourth Amendment, they noticed, says individuals shall not be subject to "unreasonable searches and seizures," and this search was flagrantly unreasonable. The mere possibility of finding pills in underpants is not enough, wrote Justice David Souter, to "make the quantum leap from outer clothes and backpacks to exposure of intimate parts."

School administrators might be forgiven for not knowing that. After all, the Supreme Court had previously allowed them to force students to undergo drug testing as a condition of participating in any extracurricular activity. Making students who have done nothing wrong produce a urine sample under the monitoring of a teacher, it insisted, was "not significant" as a breach of privacy.

The court had also permitted schools to search a kid's locker, backpack and purse on even modest suspicion that some trivial school rule had been violated.

Justice John Paul Stevens complained that under these decisions, "a student detained by school officials for questioning, on reasonable suspicion that she has violated a school rule, is entitled to no more protection under the Fourth Amendment than a criminal suspect under custodial arrest." The Constitution's privacy protection, he said, has become "virtually meaningless in the school context."

Stevens did not exaggerate. Even in this case, the court was willing to tolerate making a 13-year-old girl strip to her underwear. It was the "exposure of intimate parts," not the exposure of everything else, that caused the justices to bridle. But if a more dangerous item had been sought or if there had been reason to think she was actually hiding a pill in her bra, the majority indicated, the search might have been perfectly acceptable.

So there's still a difference between the rights we afford students and the rights we afford prison inmates. Just not a very big one.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: arth; lawsuit; minors; privacy; redding; ruling; schooldiscipline; scotus

1 posted on 07/02/2009 7:26:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Children are considered a “special class” and subject to special versions of the USC.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 7:30:09 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin
That would have been the perfect moment for a sudden burst of common sense

Not in the terrarium known as a school where the totem pole of power and gossip are the primary subjects for teachers, admins, etc. Education is way down the list.

3 posted on 07/02/2009 7:31:05 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Kaslin

Sorry, I meant “special interpretations” of the USC.


4 posted on 07/02/2009 7:31:19 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Kaslin

I understand the need for safe drug free schools but Zero Tolerance leads to abuses. Kids have to have permission to have Ibuprofen? I guess the Gub’ment is getting the kids reads to be good Democrat Kool-Aid Drinkers....


5 posted on 07/02/2009 7:32:37 AM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: Kaslin

Since the whole idea of compulsory and public funded education falls way outside the constitution anyway, I’d say the schools have leeway to do whatever they want. If a parent abdicates their responsibility to educate their children they also abdicate their responsibility to care for their children for 8 hours a day for 9+ months. Is it any wonder the schools feel at liberty to administer control of the children however they deem necessary?


7 posted on 07/02/2009 7:39:12 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: F15Eagle

“Velcome to Amerikka, comrades.”

Boris & Natasha Badinov, Co- Principals.


8 posted on 07/02/2009 7:40:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: demshateGod
If a parent abdicates their responsibility to educate their children they also abdicate their responsibility to care for their children for 8 hours a day for 9+ months.

Yep.

I've come to conclude that it's gotten to the point where relinquishing your child into the clutches of the public school system amounts to child abuse.

9 posted on 07/02/2009 7:47:54 AM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: AAABEST

Yeah, but it’s a culturally acceptable form of abuse.


10 posted on 07/02/2009 8:01:43 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah, there’s no freakin’ way I am going to trust my precious children with these clowns.


11 posted on 07/02/2009 8:14:15 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (Boehner Baby!!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Sad to say , but kids would have a better chance of Boris and Natasha were in charge. Rocky and Bulwinkle to the rescue.


12 posted on 07/02/2009 8:17:19 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Kaslin; metmom
What's really bad is that they strip-searched this girl without the knowledge or consent of her parent. That is clear abuse of in local parentis (in place of a parent) which school administrators enjoy and often use it to abuse their power.

There is where 'zero tolerance' leads and why homeschooling is getting more popular every year.

13 posted on 07/02/2009 10:32:40 AM PDT by pray4liberty (http://www.aroodawakening.tv)
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; Antoninus; ...

Update on the strip search case and SCOTUS ruling.


14 posted on 07/02/2009 2:27:13 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AAABEST
I've come to conclude that it's gotten to the point where relinquishing your child into the clutches of the public school system amounts to child abuse.
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Uh Oh! Some government school defender is bound to accuse you of saying that they **personally** abuse their children. They'll be hitting the abuse button soon. ( /sarc)

15 posted on 07/02/2009 3:01:13 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: demshateGod
Yeah, but it’s a culturally acceptable form of abuse.
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Government schools teacher children how to be compliant comrades of the state.

On the other hand, children ( who have committed no crime)who **rationally** resist being treated like a prisoner are further punished by the state with visits by truant officers and police with real guns, court appearances, and hard time in real prison.

Imagine what would have happened to this girl if she had physically **resisted** the search? What do you think would have happened to her?

16 posted on 07/02/2009 3:05:46 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: wintertime

This story would be different and half the people on FR would support what the schools did.


17 posted on 07/04/2009 6:19:11 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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