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Stop bombing us: Osama isn’t here, says Pakistan
Timesonline ^

Posted on 07/11/2009 4:51:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Stop bombing us: Osama isn’t here, says Pakistan Christina Lamb in Karachi

Osama bin Laden and the top Al-Qaeda leadership are not in Pakistan, making US missile attacks against them futile, according to the country’s interior minister.

“If Osama was in Pakistan we would know, with all the thousands of troops we have sent into the tribal areas in recent months,” Rehman Malik told The Sunday Times. “If he and all these four or five top people were in our area they would have been caught, the way we are searching.”

He added: “According to our information Osama is in Afghanistan, probably Kunar, as most of the activities against Pakistan are being directed from Kunar.”

Washington does not directly acknowledge its missile attacks on Pakistani territory by unmanned drone aircraft but Pakistani officials say the US has carried out more than 40 attacks inside its borders in the past 10 months, killing hundreds of people.

CIA officials claim these attacks have been highly effective in disrupting Al-Qaeda’s ability to operate. However, Malik insists they are a waste of time because the Al-Qaeda leadership is on the other side of the border in eastern Afghanistan.

“They’re getting mid-level people not big fish,” he said. “And they are counterproductive because they are killing civilians and turning locals against our government. We try to win people’s hearts, then one drone attack drives them away. One attack alone last week killed 50 people.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; binladen; kunar; obl; pakistan; ubl
Uh do you have an address?
1 posted on 07/11/2009 4:51:57 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Oh my gosh. At first I thought it
said ... OBAMA isn’t here. Sheesh!


2 posted on 07/11/2009 4:53:47 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Jo Nuvark

I did the same.


3 posted on 07/11/2009 4:55:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Sub-Driver
“They’re getting mid-level people not big fish,”

Cool, thanks for your input.
4 posted on 07/11/2009 4:55:29 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Jo Nuvark
Oh my gosh. At first I thought it said ... OBAMA isn’t here. Sheesh

You aren't the only one
5 posted on 07/11/2009 4:59:44 PM PDT by CMS ( obama pres & dem majority----RIP United States of America 1776-2008 It was great while it lasted.)
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To: Arkinsaw

I’d say he’s in Iran and has been there for quite some time despite the shia/sunni rift


6 posted on 07/11/2009 5:06:25 PM PDT by gatorhead
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To: Sub-Driver

Even if the bombs aren’t killing the high level guys, they could be disrupting the supply lines and communication lines to and from the caves.

Maybe we should send in drones to bomb both sides of the border. I don’t care if we get UBL or his janitor or accountant, if some alQaeda guys get killed in bombing raids, it’s worth it.


7 posted on 07/11/2009 5:10:19 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( Sarah Louise Heath Palin - 45th President of the United States!!! ))))
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To: Sub-Driver

Osama’s wearing a Burkha and walking around free as a bird in Afghanistan because 0bama will not allow our troops to investigate anyone in a burkha.

They’re all a bunch of worthless limp wrist wusses. Osama AND 0bama.


8 posted on 07/11/2009 5:13:08 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Isn’t he in Africa? Oh... wait.


9 posted on 07/11/2009 5:16:13 PM PDT by 386wt (Clinging to my clunker here in Ruralville...)
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To: Squantos; Jet Jaguar; Oorang; All

Recap:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/ubl/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2233880/posts
Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2260185/posts

Swat Taliban Offer Osama bin-Laden Safe Haven
THE JAWA REPORT ^ | April 20, 2009 04:31 PM | posted by Howie
Posted on April 20, 2009 5:39:05 PM PDT by Cindy

Via Yahoo News:MINGORA, Pakistan – Pakistan was trying to end bloodshed when it let the idyllic Swat Valley fall under Islamic law last week. Instead, it has emboldened the Taliban to extend a hand to militants, including Osama bin Laden.

The local spokesman for the Taliban, which control the valley, told The Associated Press he’d welcome militants bent on battling U.S. troops and their Arab allies if they want to settle there.

“Osama can come here. Sure, like a brother they can stay anywhere they want,” Muslim Khan said in a two-hour interview Friday, his first with a foreign journalist since Islamic law was imposed. “Yes, we will help them and protect them.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mypetjawa.mu.nu ...

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Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2208074/posts

...How we Know AQ#1 Surfs the Internet & What this tells us about his location
THE JAWA REPORT ^ | March 15, 2009 | Rusty
Posted on March 16, 2009 10:31:18 PM PDT by Cindy

BLOG:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/196831.php

March 15, 2009

“An Osama bin Laden Approved Website: or, How we Know AQ #1 Surfs the Internet & What this tells us about his location”

(Excerpt) Read more at mypetjawa.mu.nu ...

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Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2224520/posts

...Traitor Adam Gadahn in New Video
THE JAWA REPORT ^ | April 7, 2009 07:49 PM | By Rusty
Posted on April 7, 2009 6:40:04 PM PDT by Cindy

April 07, 2009

Word from IntelCenter that a new al Qaeda video featuring America’s only indicted traitor, Adam Gadahn, is going to be aired on al Jazeera. The name of the video is, “So That the Gaza Holocaust is Not Repeated.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mypetjawa.mu.nu ...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2224520/posts?page=19#19

To: All
Just a note...

In my opinion Bin Laden, you seriously suck as a fund raiser. You look like a loser brought in off the streets for an AA meeting.

And Gadahn, you sound very, very scared and tired.

Anyway....

Let’s close by bringing up that wanted poster for Bin Laden:

http://www.rewardsforjustice.net/index.cfm?page=Bin_Laden&language=english

“Wanted
Usama bin Ladin
Up to $25 Million Reward”

19 posted on April 14, 2009 4:51:57 AM PDT by Cindy

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2173124/posts

Bin Laden messages on Bosnian Muslim site
SERBIANNA.com ^ | January 26, 2009 – 9:23 am | n/a
Posted on January 27, 2009 5:52:41 PM PST by Cindy

Messages from Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants have been published on the Bosnian Muslim web site putvjernika.com.

Titled “Usama bin Laden: Call to Jihad to stop aggression in Gaza” the text warns that Muslims “have ignored the requirement of Jihad!”.

The web site putvjernika.com is ran by Bosnian Muslims from Gornja Maoca, a village that was ethnically cleansed of Serbs and now occupied by Bosnian Muslims who believe in Wahabism.

The Muslims of Gornja Maoca have been involved in several terror attack plans on Europe, including the attempted bomb attack on the Pope John.

The web site is the exclusive Balkan web site that transmits al-Qaeda communications to their faithful in the region.

The Gornja Maoca community of Islamic believers is lead by Nusret Imamovic who recently said that suicide attacks are legal in Islam.

(Excerpt) Read more at serbianna.com ...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2164610/posts

Bin Laden urges jihad against Israel
AP ^ | 01-14-2009 | LEE KEATH
Posted on January 14, 2009 3:06:14 PM PST by 82ndABNOfficer

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


10 posted on 07/11/2009 5:16:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Sub-Driver
Stop bombing us: Osama isn’t here, says Pakistan

But the Taliban and Al Qaeda are, even if Osama isn't, although I there's a good chance he is.

11 posted on 07/11/2009 5:29:24 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

“Maybe we should send in drones to bomb both sides of the border. I don’t care if we get UBL or his janitor or accountant, if some alQaeda guys get killed in bombing raids, it’s worth it.”

I look at it as one less to breed.


12 posted on 07/11/2009 5:41:20 PM PDT by Bluebeard16
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought 0bama would have found Osama by now.


13 posted on 07/11/2009 5:54:06 PM PDT by character_matters
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To: gatorhead

I’d say he’s in Iran and has been there for quite some time despite the shia/sunni rift


ABSOLUTELY AGREED!


14 posted on 07/11/2009 5:55:46 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: gatorhead; Jet Jaguar; Squantos; Oorang

RECAP - Re Saad Bin Laden and Iran...

http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/hp1360.htm

January 16, 2009
hp-1360

“Treasury Targets Al Qaida Operatives in Iran”

Washington, D.C. -

SNIPPET: “Sa’ad bin Laden, one of Usama bin Laden’s sons, has been involved in al Qaida activities. For example, in late 2001, Sa’ad facilitated the travel of Usama bin Laden’s family members from Afghanistan to Iran. Sa’ad made key decisions for al Qaida and was part of a small group of al Qaeda members that was involved in managing the terrorist organization from Iran. He was arrested by Iranian authorities in early 2003.

As of September 2008, it was possible that Sa’ad bin Laden was no longer in Iranian custody.”

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http://counterterrorismblog.org/2009/01/us_treasury_designates_obls_so.php

“U.S. Treasury Designates Sa’ad Bin Laden (OBL’s Son) and Mustafa Hamid (aka Abu al-Walid al-Masri), Top Al Qaeda Theorist (updated)”
By Andrew Cochran

SNIPPET: “The U.S. Treasury Department has announced the designations of Sa’ad bin Laden, the third oldest son of Osama bin Laden, and other individuals (updated link). Last September, Sa’ad bin Laden was reported to have returned to Pakistan from Iran, according to messages posted on an al Qaeda jihad Web forum, after living (or being held prisoner) in Iran since the end of 2001, according to Iranians who discussed the issue with NBC News. Sa’ad allegedly worked with Khalid Shaik Mohamed and participated in planning a 2002 bombing in Tunisia which killed 17 people.

(UPDATE) The Treasury also designated Mustafa Hamid, also known as Abu al-Walid al-Masri, a top Al Qaeda theorist. Hamid wrote two books, “Chatter on the World’s Rooftop,” and “The Story of the Arab Afghans, From Their Entry Into Afghanistan Until They Left With Taliban.” Excerpts of the latter book were published in October 2006 on Al-Sharq al-Awsat (tip to Laura Mansfield). He is considered one of the most senior AQ theorists and is close to Mullah Omar, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and OBL. He is also credited with helping to develop the Islamist militant movement in Australia through a short marriage to Rabiyah Hutchison, an Australian convert to Islam who was married earlier to Abdul Rahim Ayub, one of the founders of Jemaah Islamiah’s branch in Australia.

(UPDATE, 12:20 pm ET) The Treasury Department has released much more information about these two and two additional AQ associates also designated. Interestingly, the purpose of the designations is to infer that the Iranian government is giving safe haven to senior Al Qaeda operatives, which justifies sanctions against Iran at a time when some are calling for “dialogue.” I don’t recall if Treasury has done that before. “It is important that Iran give a public accounting of how it is meeting its international obligations to constrain al Qaida,” says Stuart Levey. Here are more facts on the four persons designated today:”


15 posted on 07/11/2009 6:35:52 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Squantos; Jet Jaguar; Oorang
Sorry about this, but one more recap:

TREAS.gov - THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY - Press Release - HP-1360: Washington, D.C. - "TREASURY TARGETS AL QAIDA OPERATIVES IN IRAN" (January 16, 2009)

LONG WAR JOURNAL.org - blog: "U.S. SANCTIONS SENIOR AL QAEDA MEMBERS OPERATING IN IRAN" by Bill Roggio (January 16, 2009, 2:22 pm)

BILL ROGGIO.com - blog: "OSAMA'S SON COORDINATES CALL BETWEEN ZAWAHIRI AND IRAN'S QODS FORCE" by Bill Roggio (January 17, 2009, 1:05 am)

COUNTERTERRORISM BLOG.org - "U.S. TREASURY DESIGNATES SA'AD BIN LADEN (OBL's SON) AND MUSTAFA HAMID (AKA ABU AL-WALID AL-MASRI), TOP AL QAEDA THEORIST (Updated)" by Andrew Cochran (January 16, 2009)

16 posted on 07/11/2009 6:53:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Jet Jaguar; Squantos; Oorang

Totally off topic - a QODS trivia moment:

Quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2289512/posts

US releases Iranian Qods Force agents
LONG WAR JOURNAL.org ^ | July 9, 2009 2:50 PM | By BILL ROGGIO
Posted on July 10, 2009 3:13:34 AM PDT by Cindy

The US military recently released five Iranian Qods Force agents who had posed as diplomats and were detained in northern Iraq in late 2006. The Iranian agents were released to the Iraqi government, which is expected to promptly turn them back over to Iran.

In January 2007, the five Iranian agents were detained by US forces in the Kurdish city of Irbil. Iran claimed the men were part of a diplomatic mission in Irbil, and protested the arrest. The men were operating from a liaison office that did not enjoy diplomatic privileges, however.

The US military accused the five Iranians of being Qods Force agents assigned to help support Shia terror groups inside Iraq.

“The five detainees are connected to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard – Qods Force (IRGC-QF), an organization known for providing funds, weapons, improvised explosive device technology and training to extremist groups attempting to destabilize the Government of Iraq and attack Coalition forces,” noted Multinational Forces Iraq in press release announcing the arrest in mid-January 2007.

Now these Qods Force agents have been released to the Iraqi government and will be turned over to the embassy in Baghdad, according to Ambassador Hassan Kazemi Qomi.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/07/us_releases_iranian.php#ixzz0Kql2fTAQ&C

(Excerpt) Read more at longwarjournal.org ...


17 posted on 07/11/2009 6:55:17 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe were not getting Osama, but the taliban we are getting are getting fed up. Eventually they’ll finger him. If only to make the bombs stop.


18 posted on 07/11/2009 7:00:49 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama = Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Sub-Driver
Dave's not here man.
19 posted on 07/11/2009 7:51:21 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Sub-Driver

Crud, Osama, Obama, they’re all the same.


20 posted on 07/12/2009 8:47:16 AM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
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